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Balance to L/M MJD
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Flaming Forum Spammer
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-08-30 18:55:51 UTC
Only Scrams disable ...

Immunity to bubbles, spheres and hictors...

Please, remember the long ago bullshit days of dual stabbed vagas and others resulting in serious penalties to stabbed combat ships. You might not want huge penalties applied for fitting, but give their attackers some options.

Large
Bubble +100% spool up time
Long Point +25% with stacking up to +75%
Scram keeps disabling
Hictor Long Point +100% spool up
Hictory Bubble disables


Medium
Bubble +100% spool up time
Warp Disruptor +25% with stacking up to +75%
Scram keeps disabling
nerf jump range to 60km
increase spool up to 18s
increase activation
Shutdown by Hictor Long Point and Hictor Bubble
Tikitina
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-08-30 19:01:40 UTC
Another option would be for groups to try and improve their tactics instead.
They could fit ships with L/MJDs to pursue these ships and hold them until the rest of the fleet gets done with the others.

Making it easier for you shouldn't always be the choice. Sometimes a change in tactics is required, which evolves the game.
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-08-31 08:28:05 UTC
If you cannot scram an MJD'ing ship in 9 seconds I think it deserves to get away.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#4 - 2014-08-31 13:10:10 UTC
Tikitina wrote:
Another option would be for groups to try and improve their tactics instead.
They could fit ships with L/MJDs to pursue these ships and hold them until the rest of the fleet gets done with the others.

Making it easier for you shouldn't always be the choice. Sometimes a change in tactics is required, which evolves the game.


Big smile

bu - but- effort??

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#5 - 2014-08-31 13:13:37 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Tikitina wrote:
Another option would be for groups to try and improve their tactics instead.
They could fit ships with L/MJDs to pursue these ships and hold them until the rest of the fleet gets done with the others.

Making it easier for you shouldn't always be the choice. Sometimes a change in tactics is required, which evolves the game.


Big smile

bu - but- effort??


I am always amused by the helpless mewling of those who consider themselves PvPers, begging CCP to effectively nullify every change made to the game so that they need not adapt, while constantly touting "adapt or die" to their prey.

EVE Online? More like "Lazy Hypocrites Online" although that doesn't have the same commercial appeal I suppose.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-08-31 13:45:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Zan Shiro
elitatwo wrote:
Tikitina wrote:
Another option would be for groups to try and improve their tactics instead.
They could fit ships with L/MJDs to pursue these ships and hold them until the rest of the fleet gets done with the others.

Making it easier for you shouldn't always be the choice. Sometimes a change in tactics is required, which evolves the game.


Big smile

bu - but- effort??



its not even the effort it used to be even. CCP got lazy for a bit and gave away reduction on sig radius for mwd on several classes of ships. HAC or AF...scram fit, haul ass to target, scram....done sir done. All wrapped up and ready to pop.

Before af and hac got this I could be really nice and say...yeah it sucked since an inty had just as good a chance to scram the target as get blapped by it. CCP opened up door for tanker scrammers though. Just need to bring. Which they should be doing anyway. Before mjd there was always mwd spank hit cloak for a BS. When they do this...something quick and agile needs to be dredging that bubble for the bump.


But I come from the its a game for 2 people mindset. PVP a vague term. To me...sometimes it means those (camping) players have to be better skilled at locking, tackling, and dropping the other player than that player is skilled at doing whatever to gtfo and avoid the whole mess.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#7 - 2014-08-31 13:52:03 UTC
The hunters should absolutely be able to catch their prey. However, the prey should absolutely be able to escape.

It should absolutely come down to Darwinism.

Both sides of the equation should have to put forth proper decision-making, compromise and due consideration in their fits/tactics and a bit of effort to achieve their respective goal.

Whoever wins will have been better prepared and more capable overall - or at least, that's how it should be.

If my previous post didn't make it clear, this will: OP's idea is unsupported and bad. Moreover, OP should feel incapable and bad for having posted it with a straight face.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#8 - 2014-08-31 14:05:45 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:

If my previous post didn't make it clear, this will: OP's idea is unsupported and bad. Moreover, OP should feel incapable and bad for having posted it with a straight face.



Like another poster always says....its the weekend trolling lol.

MJD just a new face to mwd/cloak spank whine to me. My stance on this was well bring the low sp frigate pilot. But I never had sp elitism. Give the low sp player a job if you think bubble dredging is beneath your xyz sp level. Irony is the 100000000 mil sp player can often have great need for the low sp "noob" many times in this game. Kind of what makes it nice imo. Or don't bring em and see crap clear the camp. Pick your poison here really.
baltec1
Bat Country
The Initiative.
#9 - 2014-08-31 16:03:29 UTC
How can you not scram a target in the time it takes the MJD to spool up?
Phaade
Know-Nothings
Snuffed Out
#10 - 2014-08-31 16:26:03 UTC
Hell no.


Yes, let's smash the Battleships with a nerf bat, that will really make people want to fly them.

MJD's are the best thing CCP has done in years.
Flaming Forum Spammer
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-08-31 22:52:36 UTC
and the medium version the worst...

Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-08-31 23:42:08 UTC
Flaming Forum Spammer wrote:
and the medium version the worst...



So you can't catch a BC in 9 seconds? Or was it a DST?
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#13 - 2014-09-01 12:06:31 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
How can you not scram a target in the time it takes the MJD to spool up?


Looking at that OP, I would think being incredibly stupid would be the answer.