Crime & Punishment

Not everyone knows how to prevent being ganked. Lets face it, people don't choose to gank out of some altruistic desire to make everyone tank (even if new order claim to do so). They do it because they know that there are loads of easy targets. Regardless though, I'd not say that anything should be done to make it tougher to gank individual pilots, just that there should be more longer lasting consequences of choosing to do so and more reason to actively hunt gankers.

Like what? We're already at a point that you usually make dedicated ganking chars cuz doing it on your main is way too risky in hi sec cuz of killrights and below -5 sec status.

Players already have the tools to foil ganks and/or hunt gankers, they just hardly ever do it... Can't say I blame them even, it must be boring as hell as targets will be few and far between and after one encounter you'll be on the ganker's watchlist. It works the other way around too though. The days of belts filled with easily soloable untanked barges are long gone, at least in my area of operations. It's all skiffs, procurers and tanked exhumers.

CCP has been ratcheting up the consequences of suicide ganking for years. It's never been enough for some people because suicide ganking is still possible.

So kindly rewrite your request into what you really want, for suicide ganking to be removed from the game.

I just don't think a criminal should be able to hide in a highsec station. Maybe instead of being concorded, make it so they can't dock up and they can't safely log out of the game for a period after a gank. Maybe they can't even use a gate for a while. So they are always fleeing and hiding. Would probably be more fun for everyone involved.

I think the valid point is.. not if suicide ganking should be possible. Because it should by very definition of the game. THe problem arises when suicide ganking is easier, the most secure and predictable form of PVP up to the point that is more effective than sanctioned high sec combat like wars.

That is something hard to solve, because you do not want to make suicide ganking impossible, but you must keep it in a fine balance before it becomes too hard or too easy to do with too little consequences.

One thing I was thinking is that concord response could be escalated by the number of agressosrs (just a raw Idea here). So if you suicide gankg somethign with 1 ship, they take a logn time to arrive. But if you use a fleet of 40 destroyers, they arrive much faster. That makes suicide ganking for revenge, for anger or just to hurt someone while acceptign to pay a reasonable price when concord arrives still completely viable. On other hand make the dumbshit catalysis mass suicide ganking with no purpose less likely.

Solution.. make NPC corp tax 30% after 6 months old character and 50 % after 1 year. Also Player corps start paying a tax of 20% that is reduced by 1% per member. That would make peopel flock into reasoanbly sided corps... would brign them to the real eve, they woudl make friends, and wardecs woudl be more relevant than suicide ganking.

Time to enter a new corp if you already entered a corp this week ( 7 days). They can still avoid the war, but at MASSIVE costs.

But the best solution would be to make the war FOLLOW anyone that leaves a corp under war for 7 days.

You leave Jesus out of this

Give gankers a 'docking delay'' when they try to bluff themselves into stations according to their sec status.
Another plus of this is that it would increase player interaction which I believe is one of the goals of the New Order.

EDIT By 'docking delay' I mean a extra 1-2 seconds before being able to dock when requested.

War decs were nerfed? I was under the impression they made them cheaper and removed war shedding.

Wars are pretty useless, yes, but that's more because the people that want to declare war want to do so on entities that have no interest or ability to defend themselves against the aggressor, then the aggressor cries when nobody logs on or people quit the defending corp. Wars following individuals wouldn't change that. They aren't going to stick around and get killed for no reason, so the result would just be more players in NPC corps, and if NPC corps were no longer viable it would simply lead to them quitting.

At the end of the day, there's no benefit to catering to people who want to attack people who are in no way going to fight back. The result of that will be the defender leaving and the aggressor still having nobody to fight. Surely the game would be better with more players, and thus more income for CCP to expand it, even if some of those extra players just want to be left alone.