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When I first saw something about level 4 missions for advanced frigates I thought it was an awesome idea. I was thinking a whole new type of agent, a way for new players to progress in the game from level 1 to 4 in just small ships for pve, and a new dynamic with mission-specific fitting. Instead of an expansion for the mission running profession though it just seems like a gimmick to make it less boring for end-game mission grinders. I'm not opposed to adding content to mission running, but I just think this could have been so much more.

1000 times yes!
I don't want shoot thousends paper NPS, I want figth versus few smart & strong ships!
I want all 4 lvl missions with this doctrine - not only for frigate vs. frigate, but also for other shiptype!
I want use Deimos, Vigilant and other short range ships,buffer armor tank, scrambler and stasis web for interesting PVE with one enemy ships or small group.
I want few realistic nps, which as player depends of capacitor availibiity for interactions and can launch drones, not only carry in cargo!

seeing indah in space makes me fly purple, if you know what i mean

Will the burner NPC's warp away if not tackled?

My Ishtar is ready. I'll run one, maybe two, burner missions in it just to show that the Ishtar is still OP/imba.

[Ishtar, level 4 burners]
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script

Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor I

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Ancillary Current Router II

Warden II x5
Bouncer II x5

Since when is space restricted to frigates?

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On topic: From personal experience I can say all level 4 missions are completable in a T II fitted Assault Frigate (although some take quite some time.....).
I am looking forward to see these missions pop up, oh yes....


Thread unlocked btw.

I hope the devs are still reading at this point.

I really like the whole idea and hope this trial works out and is expanded. Adding a bit of extra challenge is always a good thing.

My biggest concern is a personal one. I have the skill training and the ships to go into these missions, but I am concerned that I lack player skill to complete these missions if they are as difficult as they should be.

What I would like to see if this concepts goes forward is a second version of these missions that focus on training. the training missions should be set to run as many as needed with minimal isk and LP payouts. The real pay is what you learn plus the possibility of some low level faction drops that will help.

I love the idea of burner missions.

Being a mission runner, its a nice change of pace to be in my maurader, fly out, bastion, shoot crosses (Big and Small), loot, turn in ... rinse and repeat. I definitely welcome it \o/

Noting that CCP Fozzie mentioned that the mission will give information on how the 'burners' will be fitted. Like this:

"This pirate will be flying a shield boosted Dramiel frigate, with an extremely small signature radius. He tends to deal most of his damage with Domination Fusion ammo, supplemented with Mjolnir rockets. Survivors of his previous attacks claim that he likes to orbit his opponents at very close range at high speed to make himself hard to hit. He always flies with a Stasis Webifier and Warp Scrambler fit."

I am suggesting here a way to make these burners mission more interesting. and varied

=> Although you are making us fight pirates of different faction, their stats may not need to be the same all the time. given the example above, you can make 70% of mission follow said pirate doctrine like above and have 30% of variation like below:

"Although this pirate will be flying a shield boosted Dramiel frigate, with an extremely small signature radius, He like to be unpredictable to surprise his enemy, He tends to deal most of his damage with Photon Ammo using artillery and using sensor damper to hamper his enemy, supplemented with occassional Mjolnir light missiles. Survivors of his previous attacks claim that he likes to stay at distance at relatively high speed to make himself out of range of return fire. You may want to consider fitting a mwd to get close to him and punch him in the face or bring a long range weapon."

Needless to say, there are many variety that this can bring. and missioner need to read the text a bit before flying out.

Just a suggestion.

Not sure if this was explained.

Can few dudes in frigates fly into one mission complex ?