Wormholes

Hey everyone.

I want to make it clear that we are interested in making adjustments to wormhole PVE in the future, and we're working with the CSM to do some planning for that now but there won't be any major PVE changes in Hyperion. Those still need more time.

I definitely do believe that there are more factors to a decision about where to live than the amount of money that can be farmed, and the addition of the second static should help reinforce some of these other factors.

You guys will be noticing second statics appearing on SISI now. Of course since this is a test server things might change before release, but we have no current plans to change which systems get which static again before they hit TQ. So as always plan using SISI information at your own risk, but in this case it's a relatively small risk.

What constellation is that in, if I may ask?

Agreed, when many are making suggestions regarding income, it is not so one can bear up and turn on the isk tap.

Mainly residents of lower class holes are concerned, that the realities are such that they have worries about the viability of fuelling their pos, and covering their costs, and their members can cover replacements, without having to go out to Kspace to finance it or top it up.

The decision to stay in a wormhole is mainly based on the desire to be here, the income is just the mechanism to make it possible.

Hopefully, your changes ensure this is the case as the ability to totally isolate yourself is now even less possible.
Most who wish to live here are not here just for the Isk, there are some, and they will probably get fewer.
The more vibrant the space the more will be here because it is the life they choose and enjoy.

If you can balance the PVE to allow all to participate in some small way, even during quiet times, when few are on, this would not harm that and allow more life at all times.

Most of us would not wish to see people flooding in just for isk.

But even they have their role as targets of opportunity too. Being drawn in By higher reward, for higher risk, is perfectly fine. They may grow to love it here as well.

All your changes, with the one exception of which you are aware and considering, balance that nicely. And ensure that pure bearing is less viable whilst keeping vitality improving.

Hopefully your PVE changes will Too.
They are equally important.
Hopefully a little support for C4 occupants, even temporary interim assistance, might be possible to encourage them to persist in the meantime.

I am somewhat split on whether or not the static will be a benefit or a hinderence. I just discovered on SISI that my C4/C3 home will be gaining a C4 static. Ignoring the obvious implications of the other wanderings and the frequency of wanderings, this means my wormhole is connected to at least 3 more systems than before the patch.

The hole now has the ability to roll into any space in eve, any K-space, by way of the C3, and any W-space by way of the C4 static's statics. This makes it a very unique system, and I look forward to exploring the possibilities with my group. There is a big BUT though.

It requires more pilots to take advantage of. One of the main problems in wormholes is the lack of Isk making opportunities for the 'lone' pilot times. While it doesn't happen often in my group, many other C4s will have difficulty practicing any sort of hole control. Hole control, by way of scouts or closing holes, requires even more pilots/alts than it did before, which indicates that CCP would rather players not practice hole control the way that we do today, or if we are supposed to adapt our current methods that we should be making less Isk than we currently are. Given the rediculously slow respawn rate of sites, mostly due to general wormhole inactivity and black holes gathering sites (hopefully that will change) , c4 wormholers make very little Isk in their home unless they are very small groups, the very groups that will be forced out by these changes.

While I will obviously adapt and lead my corp within wormholes regardless of the changes, I worry about the staying power of my members due to lack of income. Even if we have to run sites in PvP fleets, the tactical disadvantage of having your fleet visable running a site is great enough that if a group does engage you, it is because they already know they will win. In a game of rock paper scissors like eve, it's an easy win if you already know what your opponent has.

It's in constellation D-C00172 and Region D-R00018.

Well, our C4/C2 now has an additional C5 static, so we're moving everything out.

SIngle player can run sites up to C5. Thing is, you need 2nd char to watch your back always. OR risk being boomed. Although the idea of small C3/C4 anomalies, that are quick, provide reasonable amount of coin for the time / risk involved is good.

thought so on the alts. Also agree on omnipresent danger. You never know.

Yup being able to farm C320 gas from all those empty C5's is horribad for sure..

Legit question: why is a C3 not viable for you? I've always thought the income was comparable.