Crime & Punishment

More bombless bombers for le goblin and those playing the drinking game at home

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=24695696

Well, given that we already know his opinion about bombless bombers I expect him to chastise his servants Mordus Angels and command them to use a handful of injector dreads instead.

Actually that would be fun to watch - Gevlon teaching a null alliance ~tactics~.

Since no one has said it on this page: TITAN

Perhaps timesheets are a bad analogy? Would you be happier with a punch clock? Same concept, on push of a button and tells the employer a useful metric. Still a stroke of genius on the part of your leadership, chapeau mate.

Also, I (and probably more than half of the alliance at this point) wasn't in moa for the whole "getting kicked out" thing, so not really sure what you're talking about but w/e, before my time here and not really relevant.

Oh no, anyone is isn't a complete mongoloid knows that CCP dropped a massive bankroll upon your system with Kronos. I'm honestly disappointed that it took us as long as it did to figure out that we might want to roll in there and start choking the **** out of that golden goose.

AS other have pointed out, the PvP we would be doing anyway. The additional "work" is clicking a link in the MOTD. There's no filling out anything, it's all done automatically. And you don;'t HAVE to click it. If you don't want to be involved in receiving rewards and you don't care about SRP, then you can just go ahead and not click it.

Most of us though, we actually see the benefit in having an alliance structure that actually tries to reward it's members rather than just directors reaping the rewards and shitting on everyone else. There's a reason there's so many of us, and believe it or not, it's not because this many people like timesheets. It's because if you can get rewarded to do what you find fun in a game to the point you can play for free, and get your toys replaced when they get broken, you'd have to be beyond ******** to choose not to do so all because "grr goons".

Yes.

What Lucas has failed to communicate is we use paplinks for a few different reasons. The key reason being that participation is how slices of the pie are divided. This obviously doesn't apply to a small alliance that just does whatever they want in NPC nullsec. Another reason is scale. Checking up on the members of your small elite pvp space bushido corp is a pretty simple task, while checking for participation on a scale of say, 35000, is a monumental task that needs to be more automated to prevent burnout.

Just ask your master I guess, he likes to manually track participation.

I don't think it's a bad thing per se. I do think it is non-ironically pretty smart. But, and perhaps most significantly, I think it's pretty funny. But let me tell you why.

Let's take a look at another game for a moment: planetside 2. Lots of goons play planetside 2. Do the players in the goon outfit of ps 2 take performance metrics? Do they take attendance? Probably not. Why? It's a game ffs, played for fun.

Let's go back to eve. In my previous post I described in broad strokes how moa operates, at least from the perspective of a line-member. People show up to the ops they want to, and that's pretty much it. No one ever tracked how many and what type of ops I attended. Pretty chill. Some ~elite pvp~ entities have more stringent requirements. Take certain PL corps, they require 30 kills a month from their members as a minimum activity level, but my understanding is they don't particularly care where these kills come from e.g. attending a single large fleet or doing a bunch of small roaming.

Now let's look at the CFC. While pretty innocuous (and possibly quite useful), your dudes punch timeclocks in a fricken videogame. That's a whole new level of ~serious business~. I think this is appropriate here. I just hope you understand why someone might find the system a *tiny bit* funny.

Especially considering that a few years back I distinctly remember your guys making fun of Cascade Imminent/Atlas/etc. for being slumlords. Now the CFC are slumlords who have the majority of their members punch in timeclocks in fleets. You gotta smell at least a bit of the irony here. In my eyes eve is first and foremost a game, played for fun, not ~serious business~.