Wormholes

PVE is not linear and it shouldnt be. Higher class, higher risk at least during the PVE. Dont you dare fix it. Itll screw small ones. And forcing ppl in C4s to guard more then single entrance, that will SURELY make them more popular.

C2s are so great for mostly simple reason - HIGHSEC. Constant access. C4 with c4 and C5, YAAAY. Logoff.

Giving a second static to C5/c6's would be greatly appreciated then we can leave our one static connected to people like you when you hide in your pos and rage roll the other for targets, I don't think you want that. By giving c4's the second static they are giving you more control over it while still opening up a whole area of space that used to be linear chains of nothing but people logged off or hiding.

It's one extra WH you cycle before doing PvE. That's <30 minutes if you're solo. The only extra incoming WH's we'll get will be from other C4's and since apparently everyone is throwing a hissy fit and leaving, I guess that won't be an issue.

how does more static in C4 help? apart from need to guard another place? If I want another chain, roll 6 BS.

Unless your rolling more then 3 connections it really adds no time to rolling unless its hostile you have to wait out polarization anyway so it does give you slightly more risk as there might be someone to try and kill you. But by giving it to the c5/c6 crowd you raise your chance of getting connected to those big bad buggy men who you fear so much and they wont let you roll.

Good post but you're thinking is flawed.

1. C4 having 2nd static will just mean better WH management and will help you scan/dscan better, aka getting gud.
2. Extra static = more opportunities of more k-spaces, making logistics easier.
3. You're comparing your C4 static C3 - which is one of the easier wh's to live in. Other C4's are terrible and under utilised when compared to other classes. [insert CCP graphic here]
4. Your carebear attitude disgusts me, and why you like the quiet C4. You might find interacting (even though often violent at first) makes the game more fun, and you'll be surprised how cool the WH community actually is. AKA "hey guys help us kill some nullsec guy 4 jumps from here, join fleet in local" - common ground = killing nullsec people.
5. By the sounds of things, a lower class wormhole may suit better, you can roll it easier and you can still get good c2 > c3 farming wh's.
6. Plenty of experienced pilots live in lower class wh's, I wouldn't call it a step down from a c5. It's just a different life. Moving "up" to a class 5 is actually about active people rather than op skilled characters imo at least.

4. Not all people get off, by shooting stuff. Wanting to do your "own" thing is bad yes. However, this guy is talking about making a corp, and allow it to grow... PvP will probably happen never the less. They're playing the game the way they enjoy it, not what others are telling them is the "correct" way to play.

Also, by having carebears you sometimes get amazing kills, this is not a bad thing.. Well i guess for the elitist vocal few, it is.


All the other points, i totally agree on. O/

I rather like this change, assuming none of the new statics are empire statics. It will be nice for C4s to get more traffic from wormhole space, but I would not like to see them open up to empire. Being isolated from the "real world" is what makes them unique and interesting.

In fact I'd like to see the variety of all the classes preserved with these changes - especially with the new wandering holes. What makes different classes special are the way they interact with other classes though their connections. Adding too many types of wandering holes just homogenizes the (w)hole thing. Be careful that you don't pave over the intricate sandcastle with mud, please.

I have jsut read about the other changes come with the patch.

It is necessary to discuss the changes at once.

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Other change include k162 spawn only if you jump through it.
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So, with this change, C4 managing 2 statics is still do-able.

Let's say, warp to a 24h static right after downtime, then do some sleeper.
after 7-8 hours warp to the other 16h static.
This way ensure your chain control, although you may lost security later, wormhole will still reset everyday if you stay active.

The combined effect to me, is good.
I am living in a C4 24h static to C5. Live is hard.
Although logistic is maintained by me, 95% of my corpmate quitted the game.
I am very pleased if CCP apply these two changes at once.
However, it may become sad for the overpriced C4 static C3 or static C2.

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CCP is also trying to fix the ragerolling, the imbalanced pvp strategy,
capital jump will be spawn at 19km distance from wormhole, ship will be spawn base on mass.
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This is awful, as battleship is already a bad idea for wormhole pvp, now they get a nerf for no reason.
Also, if you are not going to need orca to reset the chain, why should orca be nerf and spawn at 10km away when no one later will need an orca to close it for safety?

I suggest that, all C5 with a downward static get another C5 static. All C6 get another static C6.
this way, you don't delete the strategy but reduce the incentive.
Also people can still close the null hole, as most of the holes are to nullsec.
if capital spawn at 19-20km from wormhole, it is not doable. you will just logoff.

as if k162 won't spawn unless you jump, overall spawned wormhole will be reduced, even from k-space.
if you add another static to the C5/C6, it will make a balance. Half of the time I do reverse exploration to look for the orgion.
If k162 didn't even spawn, I can't even explore. Thus, changes should also come with the C5/C6 extra statics.

In this thread, farmers gonna whine, pvpers gonna shine.
Small corps gonna tremble.