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CODE Minerbumping query

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Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#161 - 2014-08-05 19:45:47 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
You're not safe. Not in any space in New Eden. You undock, you risk non-consensual sexy time for any variety of made up reasons. May it ever be so.

So Say We All.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.

Jaxi Wreckful
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#162 - 2014-08-05 20:56:27 UTC
Extortion and 10 Million isk shouldn't even be allowed in the same sentence.
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#163 - 2014-08-06 02:11:54 UTC
Jaxi Wreckful wrote:
Extortion and 10 Million isk shouldn't even be allowed in the same sentence.


My new response is simply to agree. Sure! It's extortion! Now pay up or get exploded.

Unlike the real world, this is a video game and this kind of behavior is totally acceptable. Welcome to EVE :P
Revis Owen
Krigmakt Elite
Safety.
#164 - 2014-08-06 13:02:12 UTC
Shwartz Aideron wrote:
mining low lvl ore with Venture's does not make you money very quickly, so replacing my ships and implants would take several days, and in no way does this accomplish your "get rid of AFK'ers" (I do NOT AFK mine).


You got a couple of things halfway right, but only a couple of things in a wall of text post means the post as a whole FAILS.

Don't have time to address all the fail, so I pulled the above quote to represent, and address it thusly:

If you're not AFK (as you claim) and properly operating in space (space is a dangerous place!), then you are mining while aligned to a warpable point, monitoring for potential threats in local and overview (with appropriate overview settings), and warping out as soon as what you feel is a potential threat arrives on grid. If you lose ships or implants, the probability of AFK is so high that . . . you were AFK and you can drop the pretense you weren't.

Also, if you are *complaining* about the several days for you to potentially replace ship/implants you are flying, then you are flying too much for you to bear losing. You are not respecting one of the well-known rules of EVE: don't undock with what you cannot afford (or aren't willing) to lose.

Agent of the New Order http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html If you do not have a current Mining Permit, please contact me for issuance.

Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#165 - 2014-08-06 13:18:31 UTC
Shwartz Aideron wrote:

Unquoteable text wall


Shwartz,

Welcome to EvE.

Judging from your post, I would classify you as someone who "gets" it, and not just a whineing carebear. What you have encountered is, for the most part, exactly how you perceive it. However you could benefit from some corrections here and there.

CODE. players come in two forms. First, you have your RP/Meta/goal oriented crowd, that as you pointed out, seeks to do a myriad of things SUCH AS keep ore prices from inflating or flooding the market, although often other factors are in play.

The second type are the guys who dont care, and will blow you up for whatever reason they can conjure.

Both types are valid gameplay styles in EVE, and in the end, their presence adds more flavor to your game than you probably want to admit.

My advice? Learn from them. They are some of the best players to show you that EvE is about more than shooting rocks and red crosses.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

Drachen Protectorate
TSOE Po1ice
TSOE Consortium
#166 - 2014-08-08 13:05:48 UTC
Shwartz Aideron wrote:
Drachen Protectorate wrote:
Shwartz Aideron wrote:
4. This one really gets me. Don't "excessively mine"? Are you kidding me? I specialize in mining. That's what I love to do. You're telling me that if I'm "caught" mining for too long I deserve to die? That's absurd.



Come to null, join us and leave those "CODE" retards behind in high-sec.


I actually tried to do stuff in null sec once. I was immediately killed as soon as I entered, hence the reason I mentioned that I "have no other option. I would love to mine the good stuff, but apparently leaving high sec is an act of aggression to whomever owns that particular region of space, so they kill me pretty much immediately.


I checked. You or your corporation is not KOS to Providence, so you could wander down and mine to your hearts content as long as you follow a few basic rules.

Unlike the rest of null-sec EVE, we actually play the game at the hardest difficulty, hence NRDS, that might prove a bit harder for people to grasp at first, but it is how it is.

Don't get me wrong, we get awoxers from time to time. But seriously, they mostly drop mining barges, which.. pathetic.. If you're going to awox, might as well awox a whole fleet of Carriers and Supercaps to the enemy to make it worth your while.. oh wait, we don't fly those kinds of fleets. Ah well. Guess people will have to satisfy themselves with droping mining barges.

There will probably be a bunch of reds who will more than love to get your pod to turn into goo and your ship into smoldering cinders. But such is life of a nullbear carebear.

So do some research, see how things stand and let us know. We can even help you with transport of a few basic things and a short guide to survival.

Until next time,
Proviblob Resident
Drachen Protectorate
TSOE Po1ice
TSOE Consortium
#167 - 2014-08-08 13:15:11 UTC
admiral root wrote:
Drachen Protectorate wrote:
Come to null, join us and leave those "CODE" retards behind in high-sec.


Because no-one from nullsec is involved in the New Order, right?


I didn't say that. But the CODE correspondence clearly states that James 315 and CODE agents are destroying the roads of High-sec (as it were) by killing aspirant asteroid mining crews that keep asteroid junk off of the major trade routes and warp corridors.
They don't dare come to null-sec because they lose their Condord protection and their biggest advantage. First strike.

At least, so far I haven't seen your cowdung code enforced in any of the null areas.

Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#168 - 2014-08-08 13:45:12 UTC
Drachen Protectorate wrote:
admiral root wrote:
Drachen Protectorate wrote:
Come to null, join us and leave those "CODE" retards behind in high-sec.


Because no-one from nullsec is involved in the New Order, right?


I didn't say that. But the CODE correspondence clearly states that James 315 and CODE agents are destroying the roads of High-sec (as it were) by killing aspirant asteroid mining crews that keep asteroid junk off of the major trade routes and warp corridors.
They don't dare come to null-sec because they lose their Condord protection and their biggest advantage. First strike.

At least, so far I haven't seen your cowdung code enforced in any of the null areas.


Number one: nullsec is too large for any one group to even attempt to police.
Number two: code isn't needed in null. It has it's own ways of dealing with afk miners, ratters, and bot aspirants.
Revis Owen
Krigmakt Elite
Safety.
#169 - 2014-08-08 17:36:14 UTC
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Number two: code isn't needed in null. It has it's own ways of dealing with afk miners, ratters, and bot aspirants.


One can try to explain why the Code is most appropriate only to highsec until one is blue in the face. But, really, those who are ignorant on this point simply reveal that they either have failed to read or comprehend all of the readily accessible and understandable material about it.

Agent of the New Order http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html If you do not have a current Mining Permit, please contact me for issuance.

Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#170 - 2014-08-08 17:43:01 UTC
Drachen Protectorate wrote:
admiral root wrote:
Drachen Protectorate wrote:
Come to null, join us and leave those "CODE" retards behind in high-sec.


Because no-one from nullsec is involved in the New Order, right?


I didn't say that. But the CODE correspondence clearly states that James 315 and CODE agents are destroying the roads of High-sec (as it were) by killing aspirant asteroid mining crews that keep asteroid junk off of the major trade routes and warp corridors.
They don't dare come to null-sec because they lose their Condord protection and their biggest advantage. First strike.

At least, so far I haven't seen your cowdung code enforced in any of the null areas.



I enforce the code on my alt throughout the major space lanes of High sec every day, HOWEVER at heart i am a low sec pirate and i do make occasional excursions to Null Sec, If i do find a miner i have no issues reducing them to ash in the name of the CODE despite them not being in High sec. I may even try and sell them a proper permit if im in the mood or ill just podex them back home if im not.

Oh and CODE itself has been to Nullsec enforcing our laws. A few weeks ago we tore down a POS in a wormhole with 3. something bill in it while its residents were mining in ( Wait for it ) HIGHSEC!
They Didnt even try to fight back. You see we dont need first strike, we dont need high secs rules of engagement, we need a ship with guns and the will to do what must be done in the name of a better tomorrow

♣ Small Gang PVP, Large Fleet PVP, Black Ops, Incursions, Trade, and Industry ♣ 70% Lethal / 30% Super-Snuggly / 110% No idea what im doing ♣

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Drachen Protectorate
TSOE Po1ice
TSOE Consortium
#171 - 2014-08-08 22:18:32 UTC
Christopher Mabata wrote:
Drachen Protectorate wrote:
admiral root wrote:
Drachen Protectorate wrote:
Come to null, join us and leave those "CODE" retards behind in high-sec.


Because no-one from nullsec is involved in the New Order, right?


I didn't say that. But the CODE correspondence clearly states that James 315 and CODE agents are destroying the roads of High-sec (as it were) by killing aspirant asteroid mining crews that keep asteroid junk off of the major trade routes and warp corridors.
They don't dare come to null-sec because they lose their Condord protection and their biggest advantage. First strike.

At least, so far I haven't seen your cowdung code enforced in any of the null areas.



I enforce the code on my alt throughout the major space lanes of High sec every day, HOWEVER at heart i am a low sec pirate and i do make occasional excursions to Null Sec, If i do find a miner i have no issues reducing them to ash in the name of the CODE despite them not being in High sec. I may even try and sell them a proper permit if im in the mood or ill just podex them back home if im not.

Oh and CODE itself has been to Nullsec enforcing our laws. A few weeks ago we tore down a POS in a wormhole with 3. something bill in it while its residents were mining in ( Wait for it ) HIGHSEC!
They Didnt even try to fight back. You see we dont need first strike, we dont need high secs rules of engagement, we need a ship with guns and the will to do what must be done in the name of a better tomorrow


If only things you needed was ships with guns, then you wouldn't need a **** and bull story that your "CODE" represents on how justifiable your blowing ships to bits are. There are people who blow ships to bits and pieces without being pompous and pretensios asses without morality or merit.

Btw. How's your biggest shareholder doing in banland?
Akeru Matu
Holey Amarrian Inquisition
Grand Inquisitors Federation
#172 - 2014-08-09 08:22:37 UTC
Sigh. What I do not get about all this CODE stuff is why do all the carebears even respond? Yes it's emergent gameplay, the fact it is even possible is why this game is as awesome as it is. But schoolground 101, don't let your bully know he has hurt you. Just say gf in local and get a new mining barge.

That said I'm a veteran miner myself and 'afk' mining is just lame and you're not playing the game. There are plenty of opportunities even for low SP miners to earn isk other then 'afk' mining. Gas mining in a wh with your Venture is one for example.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#173 - 2014-08-09 08:32:44 UTC
or you can find a massive ice mining op that's doing something silly like jetcanning and swipe their ore in your venture.
for very little effort you can make a tidy chunk of change by taking advantage of the fact that most of them are asleep at the wheel.
added bonus to this method is not going slowly insane while you stare at rocks.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Kiryen O'Bannon
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#174 - 2014-08-09 08:34:59 UTC
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Number two: code isn't needed in null. It has it's own ways of dealing with afk miners, ratters, and bot aspirants.


Mainly by not really being concerned with whether targets are afk, mining, ratting, and not worrying about nonexistent phenomenon like "bot aspirancy". We just play the game the way wee enjoy playing it. CODE could too, but they spend almost as much time on the forums trying to defend their gameplay in terms of things like balance, botting, and other metagame concerns as they do actually logged into the client. They'd be a lot more supportable if they'd just stick to the roleplay and playing how they want and less time trying to engage in justification of what they're doing that isn't necessary in the first place. The endless talk about "saving highsec" and all the associated noise has gone from hilarious to tiresome to pathetic.

Eternal Father, King of birth, /Who didst create the heaven and earth, /And bid the planets and the sun/ Their own appointed orbits run; /O hear us when we seek thy grace /For those who soar through outer space.

rand paul 4president
i'm from the government and i'm here to help
#175 - 2014-08-09 15:57:25 UTC  |  Edited by: rand paul 4president
Drachen Protectorate wrote:
admiral root wrote:
Drachen Protectorate wrote:
Come to null, join us and leave those "CODE" retards behind in high-sec.


Because no-one from nullsec is involved in the New Order, right?


I didn't say that. But the CODE correspondence clearly states that James 315 and CODE agents are destroying the roads of High-sec (as it were) by killing aspirant asteroid mining crews that keep asteroid junk off of the major trade routes and warp corridors.
They don't dare come to null-sec because they lose their Condord protection and their biggest advantage. First strike.

At least, so far I haven't seen your cowdung code enforced in any of the null areas.



confirming CODE. would be hopeless if it wasn't protected by concord Roll
rand paul 4president
i'm from the government and i'm here to help
#176 - 2014-08-09 16:54:53 UTC
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There's only 12? Wow! I've sold over 50% of all new order permits![/quote]

i've sold nine, I guess people are buying two! double permit tank best tank!
Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#177 - 2014-08-09 19:06:05 UTC
Drachen Protectorate wrote:
Christopher Mabata wrote:
Drachen Protectorate wrote:
admiral root wrote:
Drachen Protectorate wrote:
Come to null, join us and leave those "CODE" retards behind in high-sec.


Because no-one from nullsec is involved in the New Order, right?


I didn't say that. But the CODE correspondence clearly states that James 315 and CODE agents are destroying the roads of High-sec (as it were) by killing aspirant asteroid mining crews that keep asteroid junk off of the major trade routes and warp corridors.
They don't dare come to null-sec because they lose their Condord protection and their biggest advantage. First strike.

At least, so far I haven't seen your cowdung code enforced in any of the null areas.



I enforce the code on my alt throughout the major space lanes of High sec every day, HOWEVER at heart i am a low sec pirate and i do make occasional excursions to Null Sec, If i do find a miner i have no issues reducing them to ash in the name of the CODE despite them not being in High sec. I may even try and sell them a proper permit if im in the mood or ill just podex them back home if im not.

Oh and CODE itself has been to Nullsec enforcing our laws. A few weeks ago we tore down a POS in a wormhole with 3. something bill in it while its residents were mining in ( Wait for it ) HIGHSEC!
They Didnt even try to fight back. You see we dont need first strike, we dont need high secs rules of engagement, we need a ship with guns and the will to do what must be done in the name of a better tomorrow


If only things you needed was ships with guns, then you wouldn't need a **** and bull story that your "CODE" represents on how justifiable your blowing ships to bits are. There are people who blow ships to bits and pieces without being pompous and pretensios asses without morality or merit.

Btw. How's your biggest shareholder doing in banland?


Cry moar please

Also dont talk about GM moderations on the forums, it lands you in a pot of boiling water with the ISD's most of the time

Oh and Don't Forget your permit on the way back to Tranquility :D

♣ Small Gang PVP, Large Fleet PVP, Black Ops, Incursions, Trade, and Industry ♣ 70% Lethal / 30% Super-Snuggly / 110% No idea what im doing ♣

This Message Brought to you by a sweet and sour bittervet

Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#178 - 2014-08-09 21:14:18 UTC
Drachen Protectorate wrote:


If only things you needed was ships with guns, then you wouldn't need a **** and bull story that your "CODE" represents on how justifiable your blowing ships to bits are. There are people who blow ships to bits and pieces without being pompous and pretensios asses without morality or merit.

Btw. How's your biggest shareholder doing in banland?

Our killboards are out Merit, our Code is our Morality. If you wish to debate this further please invest in a spellcheck and grammar check. Seeing as the forum itself provides a spellcheck, I'm not sure what the excuse is.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.

John XIII
The Carnifex Corp
#179 - 2014-08-10 01:22:09 UTC
Drachen Protectorate wrote:
If only things you needed was ships with guns, then you wouldn't need a **** and bull story that your "CODE" represents on how justifiable your blowing ships to bits are. There are people who blow ships to bits and pieces without being pompous and pretensios asses without morality or merit.


Dearest Drachen,

We still love you despite your continued resistance. Saving highsec players from their own worst instincts is often a thankless job. We're okay with this because we've seen the future of highsec. Our business model and role play can be a bit of an acquired taste but you'll "get it" eventually. The New Order and future-highsec demands it!

Fly safe!


Between Ignorance and Wisdom

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#180 - 2014-08-10 01:25:04 UTC
"And if you are hated because of me, then know that you walk in the Light of the Supreme Protector, and are truly blessed."

~James 315.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.