Wormholes

Do you realise where you are?

Complaining about the entire issue is pretty pointless because, as was shown with API, regardless of how much WHs want/don't want a feature, CCP will do what they want.

Oh, I'm sure CCP knows what they're doing. They're not altruistic. They want to please their breadwinners. We all know who they're catering to.
/tinfoil

-1. Normally I try to stay pretty positive but this is a turd sand which. Go home CCP you're drunk.

Messing with the ability to roll wormholes is problematic. It is hard enough to find fights as it is.

If you want to make changes to the way wormholes "fling" out stuff jumping through them, maybe you should take the ship mass into account: the lighter the ship is, the further it gets thrown out when u go through a hole.

This will allow people to still properly rageroll but subcaps have more chance to require some slowboating to jump back.

The class of wh should also affect this so that people in lower class space don't constantly get shafted if they try to roll their wh's in battleships ending up 10k off the hole all the time.

How did people not see this coming? Orcas being spawned on gates and in POSes after killing a hole were obviously the prophets of this change.

You didn't repent and this is what you get.

Changes aren't in yet, you can still try them.

You 100mn AB cruiser will be back within 5K in no time besides whats the problem with risking a cruiser in order to reap the reward of a new wh ?

I'm not over CCP, I'm over thinking that they won't screw me over just because they get bored.
Can someone send a copy of the latest Merriam-Webster to CCP HQ so they can learn that feedback implies that you give a **** what somebody tells you? Because I don't they really know what it means.
These changes will likely go live as is with the message of "Shut up and take it: like so many other things (RLML/RHML)

Because it will need 15+ back and forth. For a 2b mass connexion for example.

Collapsing with Orca is already very dangerous, you need lots of precaution and intel to do that. And u can still have your collapsing ship lost on the wrong side of the connexion. It happens sometimes because connexion mass is not a constant, it is +/- 10% and you do not know necessarily how many ships go through to estimate the current connexion mass.

And small/young corps doesnt have necessarily have an heavy dictor pilot.

If CCP have the same whormole knowledge as you we are in a very bad position ...

I live in a C4, lets review how this will effect my life.

Rolling the WH under non combat conditions: Adds the whole one minute to the procedure... Jump WH, warp up to bm, warp back, jump back, rinse repeat. Only time ANY extra time is added is on the last jump as I for the rest you're waiting for the polarisation timer anyway.

Rolling while hostiles are around: Guess I'll actually have to use a combat ship to do it now. Damn CCP and them making me fight!. Ultimately it's a safety calculation as previously. If it's safe it's safe, if it's not it's not. Putting in a tiny more effort doesn't change that.

Other people rolling WH's: Makes it a bit easier to catch those not paying attention and means doing more than flying to zero on a WH and hoping things will work out right. People actually paying attention turn into legitimate fights now. Mixed gangs required with inties and long webbers to hold stuff out at range. More gang choice is always good.

Hole control under sieges: Bit more tricky now though with covops (cause they're lighter) spawning nearer the WH, not a huge deal still. Maybe we'll start to see suicide BS's used to bring pods back in? Jump in, eject, warp pod out.

Catching Covops: No change as they spawn close anyway.

Catching other bigger stuff: Means I need to bring along something to tackle (an Inty for example) while the rest of us fly over. Hardly a big deal.

Hauling stuff with hostiles around: Really no different than how it is now. Getting caught 20km off the WH is no different to getting caught at zero and jumping back. More options in defensive modules like neuts to shake off small stuff, ecm bursts, smartbombs become available as you're not blocked by the wh anymore. Means webbing things into warp is a bit more difficult, and by more difficult I mean I need to board a different ship. Tough stuff.

Jumping into Hostiles: Now here's where it gets cool. I have options now. Currently I need to assume I'll be scrammed/webbed/bubbled the second I jump through. No so anymore. Kitting ships are now an option (OMG the Talos is back baby!) Heavy ships that local rep are more of an option. Long scrammers, sniper boats, RSD's. All kinds of cool stuff becomes available when the fight doesn't exist start to end under 10km. Also means people have a much harder time failing out when things go bad. You will have to more often decide to re-escalate the fight or cut your losses where they are.


Seriously people need to chill out for a sec and actually think about things. It's really not changing much at all. The biggest issue with this is that it's changing WH mechanics to one that's a bit too similar to how a stargate works. I'd rather WH's stay dramatically different from K Space as much as possible.

But ultimately give it a week and everyone will have adjusted and we'll be back to normal transmission.