Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Idea is very simple.
Introduce to each pirate race additional faction cruiser capable of deploying 1 ( and only ) one fighter.
Main rules:
- each cruiser have bonus to main race fighters , so Sansha : Caldari / Amarr etc
- cruiser will be using seccond race weapons, so sansha use lasers , but this cruiser will be hybrid or missile
- at max skills , proper race fighter can do maximum 350 dps ( without including modules)
- cruiser can have additional weapons.
- cruiser cannot deploy any additional drones or haul more fighters
- cruiser cannot delegate fighters to any one.
- fighter if ordered will pursuit someone in warp

This is to boost small gangs , and put some new content to the game.
It will also make fighter market more viable.

If this will put some fresh air to the game , we can think about Fighter Bomber capable battlecuiser.

Why ?

Besides off grid assigning them (following into warp) there is no difference to the super drone concept we have.

And I heard that off grid assigning is a bad thing and gets criticized everywhere, so your only innovative change is for the worse.


And, aeh, No.

PS. And I am personally also not a fan of the super drone concept. I see no immersion reason to fly a ship to remote control just one other ship/entity. Does not make sense to me. If I control drones/fighters, I want tens, dozens of them mooaaar, not less.

Aeh. Now you forced me to change my..

Why?

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WHY

it makes even less sense (unless you made a bad buy and are stuck with 100.000 fighters in high sec)!

Because this ship can add new tactics for a small gangs.
You cannot assign fighter , but aggressed, fighter will still chaise your target.
Fighter will warp with you, etc.

No i don't have ANY fighters in higsec.
I have enough fighters to supply my carriers, and i don't produce them.

Currently the only reason to train fighter skills is because you can use them on carriers.

you seriously don't think fighters are out of place on a cruiser???

No i don't think that fighters are right place on a T1 Cruiser, or T2 Cruiser.
Because this will be abused.

We are talking about :
1. Faction Cruiser , ship that will be costing 200-300mil for hull
2. One fighter

Remember that we are talking about fighters.
If you loose one don't expect to find one on next station , or pick up spare from battlefield.

If you want to chew soft target from distance - you can use Cerberus, Eagle or arty Munin.

Cheaper, bigger dps, instant damage for guns.
In all of those cases you don't even have to be near gate to lock the target.

Isthars can be produced easily.
Faction cruiser needs LP - blocking mission hubs makes them easy to disrupt supply.
Very often mission hubs are controlled by un-associated groups.

You don't see faction cruiser fields on battlefields.
Supply drones to 200 isthars.
Now supply 200 fighters for those cruisers.

Just from logistical point of view this will be not viable.


This is support ship for roaming groups offering new possibilities.
What possibilities :
PVP
- forcing enemy to move, or you will have 2-3 fighters on your tail constantly
- hitting people hiding near JB poses
- hitting snipers - fighter will warp to sniping ship and chase him.
PVE
People will find a way to abuse it.

Some things to keep in mind:

1. Fighters generally have EHP equivalent to a cruiser. What you're basically asking for is a cruiser that can deploy remote-control cruiser. If people think the new Guristas drone ships are overpowered, this would make them look like a rookie ship.
2. The only unique role of this ship would be to have it's fighter follow someone around in warp. This ability is quite nice on a carrier which takes forever to warp anywhere. But what benefit is it to a cruiser that can enter warp, and likely arrive at the destination, faster than it's most likely target (i.e. Battleship-class ships)?

I applaud the creativity, and I think that a fighter-capable sub-capital may be an interesting addition, but not in a cruiser-class hull.

thats on purpose chief. Its their new twist on the drone boat. No desire to step in a carrier....well its one less train a player has to make. Stepping into a carrier or there already? Welcome to caps, they have lots of unfun skills. I was motivated enough to train all the way to siege II on dreads . At some I am going for triage II for the int/mem spec plan I am on now. 2 mods useless out of caps and tech II was/is added pita. I did not do this because I live for pos ops. I did this because if there anyway, may as well do it the best I can.


Using your logic where is your thread for remote ecm not on mommies. I'd love a scorpion with this mod (as it can be loads of fun with the bonus it gets to local burst mod, carried over to remote would be sweet).


But seriously if this into drones....if your ishtar or gila, or other drone boat did not pop the target before it gtfo this is crossing over into petty territory. Either ole boy out flew you if both are good or you or your tackler needs to refine ship lock down. Either case, the escapee earned the get away.