Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Now factor in all the buffs to ships used for running missions and how they have affected ISK generation from high-sec missions.

Agreed...

Normally a Large smart bomb found from lvl 4 missions was worth over 700.000 isk, now it's somewhere at 134.000 isk. (I've checked both in Amarr and Jita)

Something needs to be done inorder to bring up the reward for doing level 4 missions, but straight forward buffing the isk reward from the mission itself is not the way to go.

Once upon a time when I still used PLEX for my account, I could grind that PLEX in about two weeks of not-entirely-hardcore L4 running. Maybe four or six missions a day, fully salvaged and loot sold. I don't know how people manage to buy PLEX these days - and it's not just because of PLEX prices going up. The last L4 I ran made me tangibly less than they did in those other days.

As a result, I just sell PLEX when I need money. ISK grinding is for other people.

I'd be fine with having the elite rats drop t2 salvage. In addition to allowing for more returns, it would help drive down pricing for t2 salvage, which is WAY overpriced and makes Relic hunting one of the highest risk/income disparities in the game.

That's the workaround you get to at some point. It works well enough. I pick and choose missions I hit for clean up these days.
And that's only if inclined to make a stockpile of crap for what I hope is a return to 0.0 and I'd like to have self made rigs and some named gear mods I liked for cheaper start up.

I just think its funny ccp gave the noctis after (edit: or then....I can't remember the order atm...) they adjusted (read nerfed) loot and salvege drop tables. IMO...for what drops these days good ole salvage dessie would have been fine lol. On the fence at this point at selling mine tbh and going retro with old faithful salvage catalyst.

Feature exists: leave highsec.



Or do incursions I suppose.

ccp did that. Just some not liking it. Me, meh cba to do the side stuff so missions suit me fine.

Low activity needed depending on how you do it so isk passable for work, for lack of better term, involved. Nothing really to fix (except bring back drone poop since they trashed drone missions otherwise imo...but that is for other threads lol).

Blitz works worst case if you think the saved 5-10 minutes here and there adds up to bounty + agent pay for that 1 more mission for the day/night.

I felt like dropping my two cents on missioning, I don't find it fun, I honestly don't think it need's a isk buff, or a isk nerf. But if I can solo lvl 4's in an omitanked Tengu perma active tanking lazily locking and pressing F1, I can personally say, missions need a buff in the 'fun' factor. Nothing about it is challenging, skillful, or runs any sorta risk.

I'd rather see missions become more interactive, or introduce some sort of mechanic that would make it more engaging. Nothing about them are engaging or active. Thus I can't stand to do them. The only rewards I want from missions as they stand right now are the locater agents, (which I can just bypass by going to Locates R Us) Or jump clones, (Which I can also bypass) So asides from cheapish LP faction mods (Which can be bought in market abit a higher price) and the ablitity to have POS in Highsec, What usefulness do they provide?

I say if you want to buff the payout from missioning, give them a reward that can't be given by a third party means IE: Locators, Faction Mods, Standings for Jumps clones/POS'.

I've done some high-sec exploration and found it quite profitable. It's also quite competitive. Other players might try to force you out of a site or try to steal your loot and that is what makes it interesting for me. It's still a form of PvP and still friendly for those who are afraid to lose ships. This is the dynamic all high-sec 'PvE' activities should follow, imo. HS mission runners rarely encounter any player interaction, and when they do, it's because they're getting blown up. I've also found HS anoms to be pretty competitive too, though not very profitable, they are far more enjoyable than missions. Missions should go, competitive 'PvE' gameplay should be promoted.

L4 income is reasonable.

One could argue for HARDER missions that pay more. But for their current easy of completion they pay well enough still.

Maybe the current L5 should be renamed L6 and new L5 created. Ones that need 2-3 people to complete (but do not need capital ships).