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Trajanus Caesar
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-07-25 23:13:47 UTC
Why the detailed, indepthness of creating a character model if there are no in-game mechanics, instances, or features (other than using the Captain's Quarters and as a portrait) to utilize the character model? I mean you cant walk around in stations, hang out in a bar with other capsuleers, or walk around your ship.

When Dust: Legion comes out it would be great to be able for capsuleers to walk amongst militia soldiers in stations to further showcase the integration of EVE Online and EVE Dust: Legion. Same would go with EVE Valkyrie pilots.

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Sabriz Adoudel
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#2 - 2014-07-25 23:26:35 UTC
You will see your character portrait a lot.

Having an appearance that conveys a message (either 'hey look at me, I'm a badass' or 'don't pay attention to me, I look plain and harmless') is useful.

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Trajanus Caesar
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-07-25 23:32:21 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
You will see your character portrait a lot.

Having an appearance that conveys a message (either 'hey look at me, I'm a badass' or 'don't pay attention to me, I look plain and harmless') is useful.


I agree. But then they could just remove any customization below the chest, lol.

Are they planning on expanding station/ship interiors to accommodate character models, or at least the option for it?

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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#4 - 2014-07-25 23:43:59 UTC  |  Edited by: NightCrawler 85
The original plan was that we where going to be able to walk around in the stations and interact with other players while doing so via bars, meeting rooms and similar. You can look up Ambulation, Incarna and Walking in stations (WIS) and you should be able to find quite a few articles and videos about it.

However, when Incarna was released and introduced the new character generator and one captain quarters, combined with other.. issues it caused a lot of drama. After that they added the remaining captain quarters (think it was only Minmatar to begin with?) and then the whole thing just.. died.

There is a lot of mixed opinions on whether or not WIS is needed, or would be a good addition to the game, but as far as i know they have no future plans of expanding on it. However that might change at some point in the future.

The same model was also supposed to be used in WOD (World of Darkness).

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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#5 - 2014-07-25 23:56:43 UTC
Cliffsnotes:

- CCP talked about it in 2006
- We got excited
- 2007: Soon
- 2008: Epic playable demo at fanfest, sooner
- 2009: nope, nevermind, we scrapped all of that and made wormholes
- Yay, wormholes have been the best thing evar
- 2010: Sov and planets
- Whatever happened to characters?
- 2011: They're right here! Total revamp of character creator, old system really was chest and up
- It's-happening.gif
- Incarna, single room, overheats people's GFX cards, old station environment removed, only one racial CQ, countless other problems, most of them from years ago and the fact they're years old is also a problem, leaked documents imply a looming threat of pay-to-win being the new standard
- Literal ******* riots, accounts canceled in the 10s of 1000s (literally, there was a thread on the forums keeping count)
- 20% of CCP is laid off, old station environment restored, CCP will now no longer touch character environments with a 10 ft poll
- 2012 - present: revamping, reworking, and rebuilding nearly every system
- Likely to continue for the next year or so before they've pretty much remade the game

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Trajanus Caesar
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-07-26 00:02:47 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
Cliffsnotes:

- CCP talked about it in 2006
- We got excited
- 2007: Soon
- 2008: Epic playable demo at fanfest, sooner
- 2009: nope, nevermind, we scrapped all of that and made wormholes
- Yay, wormholes have been the best thing evar
- 2010: Sov and planets
- Whatever happened to characters?
- 2011: They're right here! Total revamp of character creator, old system really was chest and up
- It's-happening.gif
- Incarna, single room, overheats people's GFX cards, old station environment removed, only one racial CQ, countless other problems, most of them from years ago and the fact they're years old is also a problem, leaked documents imply a looming threat of pay-to-win being the new standard
- Literal ******* riots, accounts canceled in the 10s of 1000s (literally, there was a thread on the forums keeping count)
- 20% of CCP is laid off, old station environment restored, CCP will now no longer touch character environments with a 10 ft poll
- 2012 - present: revamping, reworking, and rebuilding nearly every system
- Likely to continue for the next year or so before they've pretty much remade the game


Nice, lol. Thank goodness for CliffNotes. Thank you Clifton Hillegass.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-07-26 13:04:26 UTC
Trajanus Caesar wrote:
Why the detailed, indepthness of creating a character model if there are no in-game mechanics, instances, or features (other than using the Captain's Quarters and as a portrait) to utilize the character model? I mean you cant walk around in stations, hang out in a bar with other capsuleers, or walk around your ship.

When Dust: Legion comes out it would be great to be able for capsuleers to walk amongst militia soldiers in stations to further showcase the integration of EVE Online and EVE Dust: Legion. Same would go with EVE Valkyrie pilots.


Read up on Summer of Rage / Jita Riots / Incarna expansion / Greed is Good etc. and you will know.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-07-26 13:06:05 UTC
NightCrawler 85 wrote:
The original plan was that we where going to be able to walk around in the stations and interact with other players while doing so via bars, meeting rooms and similar. You can look up Ambulation, Incarna and Walking in stations (WIS) and you should be able to find quite a few articles and videos about it.

However, when Incarna was released and introduced the new character generator and one captain quarters, combined with other.. issues it caused a lot of drama. After that they added the remaining captain quarters (think it was only Minmatar to begin with?) and then the whole thing just.. died.

There is a lot of mixed opinions on whether or not WIS is needed, or would be a good addition to the game, but as far as i know they have no future plans of expanding on it. However that might change at some point in the future.

The same model was also supposed to be used in WOD (World of Darkness).


NC you are right, first was the rusty minmatar CQ.

And it won't evolve (or at least not atm) as the team working on WiS stuff got disbanded.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-07-26 13:08:03 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
Cliffsnotes:

- CCP talked about it in 2006
- We got excited
- 2007: Soon
- 2008: Epic playable demo at fanfest, sooner
- 2009: nope, nevermind, we scrapped all of that and made wormholes
- Yay, wormholes have been the best thing evar
- 2010: Sov and planets
- Whatever happened to characters?
- 2011: They're right here! Total revamp of character creator, old system really was chest and up
- It's-happening.gif
- Incarna, single room, overheats people's GFX cards, old station environment removed, only one racial CQ, countless other problems, most of them from years ago and the fact they're years old is also a problem, leaked documents imply a looming threat of pay-to-win being the new standard
- Literal ******* riots, accounts canceled in the 10s of 1000s (literally, there was a thread on the forums keeping count)
- 20% of CCP is laid off, old station environment restored, CCP will now no longer touch character environments with a 10 ft poll
- 2012 - present: revamping, reworking, and rebuilding nearly every system
- Likely to continue for the next year or so before they've pretty much remade the game


What Xerc means with overheating of GFX cards is that those GFX cards were visible from the moon with a thermal reader, that's how hot they got.Blink

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Schmata Bastanold
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#10 - 2014-07-26 13:27:37 UTC
Xercodo wrote:

- 2010: Sov and planets


Wait, sov was introduced after wormholes and it was only 4 years ago? Somehow I always thought sov was much older feature and wh came after it.
On the other hand I never bothered with checking out previous expansions features and my impression was based only on "years ago you promised to fix null and you never did it" kind of whine.
I guess "years ago" has more dramatic flavor required to make good whine.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-07-26 14:12:16 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Xercodo wrote:

- 2010: Sov and planets


Wait, sov was introduced after wormholes and it was only 4 years ago? Somehow I always thought sov was much older feature and wh came after it.
On the other hand I never bothered with checking out previous expansions features and my impression was based only on "years ago you promised to fix null and you never did it" kind of whine.
I guess "years ago" has more dramatic flavor required to make good whine.


Same here, started 4 years ago (end of 2010 with the PI expansion - Tyrannis I believe it was called).
Never knew that SOV was THAT young too, from the looks of when I started it looked like had been around for years.

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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#12 - 2014-07-26 18:04:29 UTC  |  Edited by: NightCrawler 85
Sov came before wormholes (05 I think) but I think he ment that they worked on the sov mechanics for that expansion.

It's a much different system now then what it used to be.

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Velarra
#13 - 2014-07-26 18:37:45 UTC
NightCrawler 85 wrote:
The original plan was that we where going to be able to walk around in the stations and interact with other players while doing so via bars, meeting rooms and similar. You can look up Ambulation,


Like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeanIPs0yws#t=39
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-07-26 18:39:08 UTC
NightCrawler 85 wrote:
Sov came before wormholes (05 I think) but I think he ment that they worked on the sov mechanics for that expansion.

It's a much different system now then what it used to be.



Yeah, did some looking up.

The initial SOV structure is way older (claiming SOV with POS), but the current structure is from the patch after the WH expansion.

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Erica Dusette
Division 13
#15 - 2014-07-26 20:52:53 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
What Xerc means with overheating of GFX cards is that those GFX cards were visible from the moon with a thermal reader, that's how hot they got.Blink

I read complaints about this same thing numerous times back then on the forums.

Right before I tabbed back to my 4 instances of the CQ running flawlessly on a 5 year old Toshiba laptop. What?

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-07-26 21:09:09 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Erica Dusette wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
What Xerc means with overheating of GFX cards is that those GFX cards were visible from the moon with a thermal reader, that's how hot they got.Blink

I read complaints about this same thing numerous times back then on the forums.

Right before I tabbed back to my 4 instances of the CQ running flawlessly on a 5 year old Toshiba laptop. What?


Same here, my old beast (Toshiba laptop - finally after 4 years it got replaced by a new one, but it still runs like a charm) could do perfectly with 3 CQ enabled, my PC could run all 6 accounts at the time without a problem.

Only trouble it had was logging them in all at the same time.

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Trajanus Caesar
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-07-26 21:35:51 UTC
Erica Dusette wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
What Xerc means with overheating of GFX cards is that those GFX cards were visible from the moon with a thermal reader, that's how hot they got.Blink

I read complaints about this same thing numerous times back then on the forums.

Right before I tabbed back to my 4 instances of the CQ running flawlessly on a 5 year old Toshiba laptop. What?


Sorry to go off my own topic but WOW your character looks beautiful. How many hours did you put into making her look? Very impressive none the less Shocked

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Erica Dusette
Division 13
#18 - 2014-07-26 21:43:16 UTC
Trajanus Caesar wrote:
Erica Dusette wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
What Xerc means with overheating of GFX cards is that those GFX cards were visible from the moon with a thermal reader, that's how hot they got.Blink

I read complaints about this same thing numerous times back then on the forums.

Right before I tabbed back to my 4 instances of the CQ running flawlessly on a 5 year old Toshiba laptop. What?


Sorry to go off my own topic but WOW your character looks beautiful. How many hours did you put into making her look? Very impressive none the less Shocked

Why thank you sir. Oops

This latest update I kinda did at the same time as one of her sisters. The two portraits combined took me over 30 hours until I was satisfied.

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Yarda Black
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Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2014-07-26 21:45:41 UTC
Trajanus Caesar wrote:
Why the detailed, indepthness of creating a character model if there are no in-game mechanics, instances, or features (other than using the Captain's Quarters and as a portrait) to utilize the character model?


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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#20 - 2014-07-27 02:18:16 UTC
Confirming that sov was way older than that and that the changes that were at the end of 2009/start of 2010 were the sov system changing over from POS spam to the system we have today with I-Hubs, TCU ans SBUs.

It was also when the rattlesnake became a drone boat and the bhaalgorn went to "marauder style", because prior to Dominion the bhaalgorn has 8 huns without a damage bonus.

Also when fighter bombers were added and titans got their massive damage per level bonus and when the doomsday stopped being AoE. Prior to this the super carriers were called motherships and there just over glorified carriers. They didn't have all that much HP and simply has the ability to use 25 fighters.

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