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Fuel Block Material Cost
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Hopelesshobo
Hoboland
#1 - 2014-07-22 20:17:27 UTC
So before the patch, with a perfect ME Fuel Block BPO have been changed to...

Enriched Uraniun: 4
Oxygen: 20 --> 22
Mechanical Parts: 4
Coolant: 8 --> 9
Robotics: 1

Heavy Water: 150 --> 167
Liquid Ozone: 150 --> 167
Isotopes: 400 --> 444

So on top of an increase in isotope demand for capital pilots, it also takes roughly 10% more materials to make the fuel blocks in general. So is this increase so we have to use the teams to get back to the former perfect ME cost?

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Qoi
Exert Force
#2 - 2014-07-22 20:22:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Qoi
Your numbers are wrong, the increase in cost at ME -10% is only 1.17% in an NPC station, due to some rounding problems (the same rounding that made small rigs twice as expensive to build).

[NPC Station]
400 Isotopes
151 Heavy Water
151 Liquid Ozone
20 Oxygen
9 Coolant
4 Mechanical Parts
4 Enriched Uranium
1 Robotics

[2% Facility Modifier]
392 Nitrogen Isotopes
148 Heavy Water
148 Liquid Ozone
20 Oxygen
8 Coolant
4 Mechanical Parts
4 Enriched Uranium
1 Robotics

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Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-07-22 20:23:41 UTC
Probably. Maybe. Nobody knows.

The system is much simplified isn't it.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#4 - 2014-07-22 20:26:05 UTC
Make sure you are NOT looking at the BPO info.

Select it using the S&I UI and look at it.
Hopelesshobo
Hoboland
#5 - 2014-07-22 20:26:54 UTC
Qoi wrote:
Your numbers are wrong, the increase in cost at ME -10% is only 1.17% in an NPC station, due to some rounding problems (the same rounding that made small rigs twice as expensive to build).

[NPC Station]
400 Isotopes
151 Heavy Water
151 Liquid Ozone
20 Oxygen
9 Coolant
4 Mechanical Parts
4 Enriched Uranium
1 Robotics

[2% Facility Modifier]
392 Nitrogen Isotopes
148 Heavy Water
148 Liquid Ozone
20 Oxygen
8 Coolant
4 Mechanical Parts
4 Enriched Uranium
1 Robotics


Your right, I was looking directly at the BPO itself, and not looking at starting a manufacturing job. I have to say, this makes things ALOT easier since you can't just look at a print to see what the facility cost is going to be before teams get put in.

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Qoi
Exert Force
#6 - 2014-07-22 20:34:56 UTC
Victoria Sin wrote:
Probably. Maybe. Nobody knows.

The system is much simplified isn't it.


It indeed is for calculating quantities, i deleted pretty much all of the code that dealt with calculating material quantities. The fact that you had to merge three different database queries just to get the correct quantities was a bit silly.

Doing a complete profit analysis including teams and system cost indices.. well, that is another story. But i count that as good complexity.

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Festers Uncle
Shortbus Hauling
#7 - 2014-07-22 20:40:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Festers Uncle
Hopelesshobo wrote:
Qoi wrote:
Your numbers are wrong, the increase in cost at ME -10% is only 1.17% in an NPC station, due to some rounding problems (the same rounding that made small rigs twice as expensive to build).

[NPC Station]
400 Isotopes
151 Heavy Water
151 Liquid Ozone
20 Oxygen
9 Coolant
4 Mechanical Parts
4 Enriched Uranium
1 Robotics

[2% Facility Modifier]
392 Nitrogen Isotopes
148 Heavy Water
148 Liquid Ozone
20 Oxygen
8 Coolant
4 Mechanical Parts
4 Enriched Uranium
1 Robotics


Your right, I was looking directly at the BPO itself, and not looking at starting a manufacturing job. I have to say, this makes things ALOT easier since you can't just look at a print to see what the facility cost is going to be before teams get put in.


Have to agree with your sarcasm here. The changes were suppose to make it easier, but to see anything now seems like you have to go to the new industry window, and try to figure out it out there. why did they do that when before it was just on the BPO/BPC.......
Hopelesshobo
Hoboland
#8 - 2014-07-22 21:41:58 UTC
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=360237&find=unread

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