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you said bpos won't get worse but Archon BPO ME 2 near Perfect now needs 12 Parts more

Naglfar an Thani BPC also

Entitled themepark carebears are crying like babies. Excellent. Big changes that improve the sandbox can't be made without this type of people crying. It's just like removing a tumor.

This is definitely one of the best patch's ever. I can't wait for carriers/supercarrier/titan/t3 rebalance, POS changes and a new SOV system.

I think the majority would accept the changes if the UI was usable. Its clunky, seems rushed, seems half thought out and done by someone who doesnt do industry on a daily basis.

Hodor.

Some thoughts that have cropped up from setting up a POS today:

- Set Use access on Research Labs and other arrays.
My POS has two Research Arrays, I was hoping to use one to store our corp BPO/C stock and accessible only by members with the correct permissions, and the other empty and useable by any member in the corporation. Might be that I've just not researched enough, feel free to correct me on this.

- Organising POS contents
Again, we have several different kinds of blueprint and material, being able to organise these in containers in the POS is currently not possible (Bug?) Containers can't be opened when in a POS structure hangar.

- Researching in a POS
At the moment Blueprints can only be researched if they're in one of the hangar bays in a Research Lab. If I have the blueprints in a corporation hangar array they can't be made use of. I'd like to minimise the movement of these blueprints between structures, it's just a nightmare to keep track of them. If I have a hangar anchored at that POS it should have materials accessible from other structures? - Limit the contents of hangars to related goods to avoid abuse?

Additional thought:
If we can't set usage permissions per structure, can we have varying taxes on the same structure based off the user's corporation title?

Oh dear,

terribad just doesn't do this credit, am I wrong in saying this way a delayed release to 'fix' the issues and yet a lot is broken ?

spent my time since the update to try and workaround some of the problems and it isn't happening,

it costs me more to install jobs in a tax free POS than it does in a 10% NPC Station ?
unless any of the corps alliances members have their hangers set to 1 they can't build/invent etc.
rant, blah, meh etc, etc etc

time to take a break and come back in a week or so, see if anything has improved

rather disappointed, they let this garbage go live

Way to go on nerfing mining,

I love the fact that during the run up to this patch you we're soothing our brows with information like and i quote


"Decreasing reprocessing efficiency as a whole affects the outcome of mining, which really doesn’t need to be nerfed right now. As such, to keep ratio fairly identical, we are going to boost all minerals and ice products gained by reprocessing ores and ices approximately by 38.1% (1/0.724). This will apply to all the unrefined alchemy material as well."

Though the upshot of anyone who has trained up all relevant processing skills is that we get a 30% nerf on reprocessing ore into minerals

check out this link that CCP helpfully provided in the run up

http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/65852/1/Orechange2.png

So if on the old system you refined 1 batch of plain old veld you got 1000 units of trit and all was right in the world :)

However on this wonderful new system to get to supposed equivalent you need to refine 3 batches, for this (at 100% and maxed skills) you are supposed to receive 1245 units of trit.

Now 10% of 1245 is 124.5 and hence 30% is 373.5 units, so 1245 - 373.5 is 871.5 units of trit, now bear in mind that this is based on the 70% station refine so why do i end up with 866 units of trit for a 3 batch run?

So lets see batches changed to 100 units, OK fine, minerals boosted by 38% yet we end up with a NET effect of more then 30%

Now don't get me wrong I completely agree with the overhaul and making refining (i hate the use of reprocessing for refining ore) and making it Skill based and also making the reward for being a low sec miner better than being a high sec miner, thou low sec miners already had access to much higher rewards than high sec miners

The fact that CCP gave the impression that you wasn't going to get nerfed for training hard and getting all those nice level 5 skills is a bit of a kick in the balls

The heart of the matter is that there was a better way to of done this and giving the impression that you wasn't going to lose out (yup this goes back to the 38% increased yields in roids) sucks, surly the better way would of been to increased the low sec side of the equation and kept the high sec side as it was?

Though I don't believe this is going to cause lots of people to quit eve or anything daft I do think that people will look more closely at whether or not to remain in mining and/or to trust what CCP dev's say in their blogs

Any way that's just my two pence worth

Fly Safe All

Ged

How do I set the default input and output hangers. Every time I switch blueprints it resets to the main hanger.

I don't see any obvious way to do this.

This is really easy, but first, you'll need some ingredients!

1: 2 Chicken's feet
2: 1/2 cup of cumen
3: 2 gallons of Cat's blood (siamese to be precise)
4: 1 Minted version of the Necronomicon
5. A headress made entirely of dodo feathers
6: A dirk
7: 1 Goat

After you've gathered everything, make sure you complete the correct ritual on page 15 in the necronomicon. Should that not work, please refer to page 630. Should this not work.... you may be SoL.

Hope this helps!

Does that mean yes or no? I'm in the same boat.