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Can we please receive SP refunds for Anchoring V and Jury Rigging IV?

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Pheusia
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#21 - 2014-07-22 08:51:52 UTC
Where do people get the idea that atempts like the OP will work? They never do!
Alt Two
Caldari Capital Construction Inc.
#22 - 2014-07-22 08:52:16 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
I thought their policy was only to refund if the skill was removed, and to ensure that no changes ever leave you unable to do something you could previous do (hence the drone SP being given out).

Before Kronos I could use T2 sentries. Now I can't.
Yes it's a short train and it doesn't bother me really. I just wanted to point out that the above is not true. :)
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#23 - 2014-07-22 08:53:07 UTC
Yongtau Naskingar
Yongtau Naskingar Corporation
#24 - 2014-07-22 08:53:45 UTC
When CCP splits skills, it's not SP reimbursement, as you just get the same options as you had before.

Actual reimbursement is rarely done, I only know of the learning skills and when the servers were DDoS'd some time ago. Let CCP Greyscale explain it to you how CCP feels about reimbursement.
Mhari Dson
Lazy Brothers Inc
#25 - 2014-07-22 08:57:01 UTC
They're adamant about the material efficiency skill not getting reimbursed despite it bieng essentially deleted and replaced with a miniscule BS timesave skill. We'll see how this goes once the GNERD RAGE (reference intended) starts.
Zachri
The Darwin Foundation
#26 - 2014-07-22 08:59:18 UTC
Mhari Dson wrote:
They're adamant about the material efficiency skill not getting reimbursed despite it bieng essentially deleted and replaced with a miniscule BS timesave skill. We'll see how this goes once the GNERD RAGE (reference intended) starts.


To be honest, EVE could use a little more rage every now and then. Going by social dynamic indicators, the emergent dynamic is rapidly becoming stale. Like a town falling asleep. Things stirring up really isn't a bad thing.
Ton'Ka Katsu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2014-07-22 09:02:47 UTC
i want some SP for having to read this thread. hmm maybe we have a winner. CCP give us 35sp per everytime we post in different threads,
Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#28 - 2014-07-22 09:04:36 UTC
Zachri wrote:
Mhari Dson wrote:
They're adamant about the material efficiency skill not getting reimbursed despite it bieng essentially deleted and replaced with a miniscule BS timesave skill. We'll see how this goes once the GNERD RAGE (reference intended) starts.


To be honest, EVE could use a little more rage every now and then. Going by social dynamic indicators, the emergent dynamic is rapidly becoming stale. Like a town falling asleep. Things stirring up really isn't a bad thing.

Unless stirring things up makes everybody leave. Then it's kind of a bad thing.
Zachri
The Darwin Foundation
#29 - 2014-07-22 09:10:10 UTC
Derrick Miles wrote:
Zachri wrote:
Mhari Dson wrote:
They're adamant about the material efficiency skill not getting reimbursed despite it bieng essentially deleted and replaced with a miniscule BS timesave skill. We'll see how this goes once the GNERD RAGE (reference intended) starts.


To be honest, EVE could use a little more rage every now and then. Going by social dynamic indicators, the emergent dynamic is rapidly becoming stale. Like a town falling asleep. Things stirring up really isn't a bad thing.

Unless stirring things up makes everybody leave. Then it's kind of a bad thing.


You'd be surprised to see how few people actually leave over **** stirring up in relation to what is brought in with conversion focus. Especially once players become a little vested, it's rare to see groups quit.

The only hickup which did have an impact (and which CCP did jump on) was some years ago, the internal newsletter leak thing, there the numbers were of interest. But in terms of feature / content aggravation, sure there's been factors that influence retention (anyone remember sovereignty based on pos spamming), but that is fully manageable in relation to CCP's efforts on conversion (bringing in trials, and seducing them).

I know, it's something a lot of people say very quickly - omgquit. The reality is that 1. CCP can replace a heck of a let with their existing conversion focus and 2. it barely makes a dent unless it encroaches on non-feature/content issues, like the trust relationship between customer / provider.

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#30 - 2014-07-22 09:10:48 UTC
Ton'Ka Katsu wrote:
i want some SP for having to read this thread. hmm maybe we have a winner. CCP give us 35sp per everytime we post in different threads,

Id rather they took sp for bad posts
Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
#31 - 2014-07-22 09:18:44 UTC
Zachri wrote:
Well, they have done it in the past. I'm actually surprised they forgot it this time.
I'm trying to recall when they did so, but I am sure you can name instances?
When did they refund skillpoints when they didn't remove all functionality for the skills?

Because the best examples would all be counterexamples: Any ship rebalance ever done by CCP.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#32 - 2014-07-22 09:26:22 UTC
Bad posts should result in open killrights. Now that would keep things lively.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#33 - 2014-07-22 09:29:16 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Bad posts should result in open killrights. Now that would keep things lively.

Another plug for isd sanctioned bounties.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#34 - 2014-07-22 09:31:07 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:

My reaction when...

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP

Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#35 - 2014-07-22 09:34:11 UTC
Jury Rigging IV I could get behind, but it's such a small amount of SP I really can't be bothered if they give it back or not.

Anchoring V has other uses for which many have trained it. So no refund there.
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#36 - 2014-07-22 09:35:11 UTC
oh right... Jury rigging really does nothing now...
REFUND ! REFUND!!!

Thought I would like refund for my entire mining\refining skills group (around 3 million points)... A clone can always dream I guess.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#37 - 2014-07-22 09:36:26 UTC
Any time they change anything, people want skillpoint refunds. They should just start saying no in advance.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#38 - 2014-07-22 09:36:38 UTC
Eugene Kerner wrote:

Umm
Yongtau Naskingar
Yongtau Naskingar Corporation
#39 - 2014-07-22 09:38:41 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
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Yongtau Naskingar
Yongtau Naskingar Corporation
#40 - 2014-07-22 09:39:27 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
They should just start saying no in advance.

They do, people still demand refunds.