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Can we please receive SP refunds for Anchoring V and Jury Rigging IV?

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Dally Lama
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-07-22 08:21:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Dally Lama
Anchoring V:

The skill requirements for Starbase Defence Management is being reduced to IV with the update today.
This means the only skills that require Anchoring V are now Outpost Construction and Large Mobile Warp Disrupter II

Many of us have corp management alts that have been trained for the specific purpose of managing corporations and starbases. Since the Anchoring skill itself has no benefits, and Outpost Construction / Large Mobile Warp Disruptor will never be used by a corp management alt, this is now effectively wasted SP.

Please refund the SP for Anchoring V upon request, much like has been done in the recent past with other skill changes. Thanks.


Jury Rigging IV:

Fitting rigs will no longer require any actual skills with the update today. The skills will simply affect the level of drawbacks you receive. Engineering rigs however do not have any drawbacks - I could be mistaken but I believe that's correct. As such, Jury Rigging IV is now effectively wasted SP. It does not unlock any new skills, new modules, nor does it provide any benefits.

Please refund the SP for Jury Rigging IV. Thanks.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2014-07-22 08:22:38 UTC
Valkin Mordirc
#3 - 2014-07-22 08:23:38 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
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Pretty much this
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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#4 - 2014-07-22 08:27:15 UTC
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
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Pretty much this

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Ryuu Towryk
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-07-22 08:27:40 UTC
Negative.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#6 - 2014-07-22 08:31:20 UTC
But, but... I don't have Anchoring V Cry

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Dally Lama
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-07-22 08:31:56 UTC
I have updated the post to include Jury Rigging IV, which is also now effectively wasted SP.

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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#8 - 2014-07-22 08:33:28 UTC
Hurray, I have Jury Rigging IV Big smile

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Ix Method
Doomheim
#9 - 2014-07-22 08:33:57 UTC
Perhaps they could also automagically give it back to you when something new is introduced that needs it?

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Ryuu Towryk
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-07-22 08:35:21 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#11 - 2014-07-22 08:36:22 UTC
Dally Lama wrote:
I have updated the post to include Jury Rigging IV, which is also now effectively wasted SP.

Do you read those blogs or just scim over looking for something to be outraged by?
rigs will be getting increased drawbacks they previously didnt have.

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Arkady Romanov
Whole Squid
#12 - 2014-07-22 08:36:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Arkady Romanov
Sounds like you should go anchor some bubbles and lay some outposts to get your money's worth.


and, you know, have a cup of cement HTFU while you're at it.

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Yongtau Naskingar
Yongtau Naskingar Corporation
#13 - 2014-07-22 08:37:50 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#14 - 2014-07-22 08:39:32 UTC
Yongtau Naskingar wrote:
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mines better :p

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Zachri
The Darwin Foundation
#15 - 2014-07-22 08:40:38 UTC
Well, they have done it in the past. I'm actually surprised they forgot it this time.
Yongtau Naskingar
Yongtau Naskingar Corporation
#16 - 2014-07-22 08:41:49 UTC
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#17 - 2014-07-22 08:45:05 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
rigs will be getting increased drawbacks they previously didnt have.


what, What, WHAT??!!11oneone1!

Unleash the houdz of nerdrage!

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#18 - 2014-07-22 08:46:58 UTC
Zachri wrote:
Well, they have done it in the past. I'm actually surprised they forgot it this time.
Have they? I thought their policy was only to refund if the skill was removed, and to ensure that no changes ever leave you unable to do something you could previous do (hence the drone SP being given out). I don't remember a time when they have handed back SP without actually removing the skill, but then I could just be terrible at remembering these things.

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Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#19 - 2014-07-22 08:50:12 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:


what, What, WHAT??!!11oneone1!

Unleash the houdz of nerdrage!

Nerds don't have hounds. The best they can do is Digipets.
Zachri
The Darwin Foundation
#20 - 2014-07-22 08:50:43 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Zachri wrote:
Well, they have done it in the past. I'm actually surprised they forgot it this time.
Have they? I thought their policy was only to refund if the skill was removed, and to ensure that no changes ever leave you unable to do something you could previous do (hence the drone SP being given out). I don't remember a time when they have handed back SP without actually removing the skill, but then I could just be terrible at remembering these things.


They've done pretty much every angle over the years. From GM skill gifts, like medium drones, to skill compensations for altered prerequisites, to - indeed - compensations for removed skills. It's how I ended up with some 4M+ unused sp's when I reactivated this account.

There's never been any rules or such to it. Past performance, no guarantee for the future plus HTFU & all that. Considering however that upon my return I found an EVE with an actual SAFETY (!) mechanism, I'd have thought they would be catering more to retention/conversion crunch points these days than in the past when it was always a spur of the patchday kind of thing.
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