Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Interdictors bubbling the undock on NPC stations is one of the lamest tactics in this game right now. They undock and wait out their session change timer. Bubble the undock and re-dock never once becoming killable. How is this not an abuse of the game?

Currently the solution is to bomb the undock on the station. However this is not possible on certain stations because the bombers can not position themselves while cloaked because of the station dock range.

To top it off smartbombs in 0.0 can't activate next to a station. (for some god unknown reason) This makes killing the bubbles nearly impossible.

How can CCP allow 1 single inderdictor to lock down a system for an entire group of pilots with the pilots having no way to react?

This is a baffling mechanic that has gone on far too long now.

From the goons

"...HOBOJAMMING

Adding to our arsenal of methods to **** with NPC dwellers, let's not forget hobojamming: where an interdictor pilot repeatedly undocks, bubbles, and redocks as an enemy fleet helplessly tries to use their capitals. Capital-heavy alliances are particularly vulnerable to this when staging in NPC territory, so when we visit Delve let's make sure to have hobojammers in PR-8CA (where PASTA currently stage) and KFIE (where NCdot are staging); other capital midpoint locations the enemy uses are A-ELE and Z3V. One pilot with a stack of interdictors and a grudge can ruin an entire fleet's evening. 
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Mittani

First off, smart bombs on the station / gate were removed for a reason. Put a few smartbombing BS's on the undock of a station, and they can effectively destroy any sub BC ship before it can redock. This would be bad, especially given how station guns work now.

Next, your bomber doesn't need to be cloaked if you control the undock.

The real solution is to bring back aggression timers on prohibitive dictor bubbles. It used to be, that if you attempted to warp while inside a dictor/hictor bubble, you gave the pilot an aggro timer that prevented jumping/docking. Bring that back, and the problem is completely solved.

Do NOT, under any circumstances, bring back the "you launch a bubble and get an aggro timer" mechanic though. If someone isn't actively attempting to warp in the bubble, it should not give an aggro timer.

How does one control the undock against someone who presses one button and redocks, repeatedly? And who has a large stack of dictors ready and waiting even if they do manage to lose one? And, frequently, their med clone set to that very same station as well?

Sure, it is a lame tactic. But, it only works if: you lack the willpower and resolve to kill the offending ship. But I think you left out something: the offender is not alone, if they were, the extra distance to travel out of the bubble would not be an issue. You don;t need to be cloaked if the guy is alone to launch a bomb their direction.

While I would love to smart bomb the entrance of any station, I understand why they don't allow it.

You should simply ask CCP to add a backdoor to stations. That might achieve better results.

It's AOE, so make it like smartbomb.
When using a SB, even if you are alone in a safe, you got a weapon timer.

Yes. You have no idea what you are talking about.



Sometimes being cloaked is not an issue. However many times the person doing the interdictor bubbling will also run an unprobable sniper ship like a tornado or loki and pops bombers if they are not cloaked. Also the bombing itself must be timed perfectly with the fleet escaping the station because even if you blow up the bubble the interdictor comes out every 20-30 seconds and it will be back up right after you destroy it. It takes multiple bombers in position to stop this tactic and yes normally sitting without moving in uncloaked bombers is a good way to die.



This statement is just blatantly off. The undock can be perfectly in control and the interdictor CAN NOT BE KILLED. He undocks... waits out his timer..... bubble.... dock. You can not lock this person before they dock.



Same as above. No scan res will get you high enough to catch this person. The server ticks are too slow.

Also I think it is important to note that this tactic is a barrier to 0.0 entry for new entities.

Sov holding entities are doing this tactic to NPC 0.0 alliances.

The NPC alliances can not do the same tactic back because they can not dock in the sov holders station.

With no viable way to stop the tactic it is a blatant advantage to the sov holder.

Last time I checked you could just fly away from the station to get out of the bubble, if he chases you get your friends to kill him with you off station.

I think this is a perfect solution. That way interdictors can still bubble a gate and jump through to the other side. But it would destroy their ability to spam bubbles on station once someone warped inside the bubble.

I definitely don't think just launching a bubble should give an aggro timer.

Or like I said in my subject we could simply eliminate the smartbomb radius rule in 0.0. I would still love an explanation on why this exists in 0.0 and how it would possibly be abusive.