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Auto Hot-Align on A-gate
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Conrad Makbure
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-07-05 15:04:32 UTC
I'd like to see this in game, where we can just align to the A-gate warp point if in the A-gate range. Currently, we double click in space. It would be used all the time for fleet ops that run though an A-gate
Anhenka
The New Federation
Sigma Grindset
#2 - 2014-07-05 15:20:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Anhenka
Dafuq is an A-Gate?

Edit: Acceleration gate I presume. Tip: don't use sparsely known abbreviations on the forum, spell it out at least once >.>
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#3 - 2014-07-05 15:27:41 UTC
You know what would be fun? If the Acceleration gate warps every ship at the same, almost instant align by reducing inertia and mass for a second when activated.

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Iain Cariaba
#4 - 2014-07-05 15:30:30 UTC
Conrad Makbure wrote:
Currently, we double click in space.

You provided your own solution. Not like it's difficult to figure out which direction you need to go. All that to save yourself one click per acceleration gate.
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#5 - 2014-07-05 18:24:50 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
*Snip* Removed off trolling part of the post. ISD Ezwal.

A-Gates work as intended, if you fail at an A-Gate blame your FC or pilots that can't follow orders.

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Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#6 - 2014-07-05 18:28:59 UTC
This (primarily) for incursion fleets?

I can kind of see why it would be asked for as unlike other fleet manoeuvres you can't tell the fleet to align to a specific object i.e. next gate (though people still manage to mess that up regularly).
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#7 - 2014-07-05 18:41:05 UTC
Any commonly capable Incursion FC will be able to A--Gates with non-******** pilot who can listen, don't use us for an excuse to justify this proposal born of laziness.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#8 - 2014-07-05 18:48:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
If you have a fleet...

If no one else can FC...

And if you can align to it...

Maybe you can activate...

THE A-GATE.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#9 - 2014-07-05 18:49:47 UTC
turns two clicks into two clicks.

but then again, i guess u couldnt miss-align lol

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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#10 - 2014-07-05 20:42:34 UTC
Also useful for lighting cynoes just off plex grids with inti's and getting caps into sites they aren't meant to be in outside of incursions. And a few other similar such exploits.
Conrad Makbure
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-07-05 20:59:05 UTC
Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:
Any commonly capable Incursion FC will be able to A--Gates with non-******** pilot who can listen, don't use us for an excuse to justify this proposal born of laziness.


Honestly bud, there's nothing wrong with my suggestion, you sound like you have personal issues and need to take that stuff off of the EVE-O forums. Don't bring it here. You had to post twice with your b/s. wow, what a loser.
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#12 - 2014-07-05 21:10:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Fer'isam K'ahn
Well, its the same as AP warp to 0, make high sec secure, instant warp, and all those other things where players want to be taken by the hand or have everything pre-chewed.

There are things that can make a pilots life easier, sure, suggest them, some UI improvements, sure, go ahead, but things that take away from active game play and the possibilities to make decisions, good as bad ones and protect lazy and inattentive players at every turn, no thx.

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Iain Cariaba
#13 - 2014-07-05 21:11:55 UTC
Conrad Makbure wrote:
Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:
Any commonly capable Incursion FC will be able to A--Gates with non-******** pilot who can listen, don't use us for an excuse to justify this proposal born of laziness.


Honestly bud, there's nothing wrong with my suggestion, you sound like you have personal issues and need to take that stuff off of the EVE-O forums. Don't bring it here. You had to post twice with your b/s. wow, what a loser.

Most incursion runners I've met have been anal retentive douches so totally obsessed with that isk/hr count that if you slow them down for even half a second they totally flip out and start screaming and crying.
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#14 - 2014-07-05 21:22:20 UTC
Hahaha, those don't need that feature either, if they can't wait, just go in on arrival °°

Those btw. have certain fitting requirements with warp rigs for any BS or all T3 fleet doctrines to cut down on warp times, which are the time eaters, not the align on gates.
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#15 - 2014-07-05 23:42:38 UTC
I dislike the term "hot align" because it suggests that "cold align" is a thing. A stopped ship is not aligned, no matter what you've heard and no matter what it looks like your ship is doing. Ships are not their models, they are simply a vector, and vectors need velocity to have any meaning. If you are stopped, you are a point in space and have no direction. You will take the same amount of time to get into warp directly infront of you as you will turning 180 degrees and warping directly behind you.

The only possible exceptions are capital ships, which might still be moving in spite of their 0.0 m/s display.

Cold aligning is not a thing. Stop it.
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#16 - 2014-07-06 00:03:49 UTC
It is.

Either you align and cut speed to 0 if you have to wait less then a minute, you drift only slowly.

Or you move with 1m/s or as close as you can get while maintaining alignment.

Works, has been done, is been done.

On command the fleet accelerates and warps before overshooting the gate.

Its called piloting.

Usually the term is also used and the maneuver performed when the orientation takes longer then the cold start to warp speed while waiting longer, a just about direction where align time is reduced to under and acceleration time. from that point you can wait and drift a bit. You might have to correct every 5-10 minutes.

Not sure what kind of fleets you are flying. If you are just hung up on the term, because you don't like to use it, write your own dictionary.