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Struggling to find ice
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Grobalobobob Bob
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2014-07-04 23:44:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Grobalobobob Bob
this evening, i searched high and low through all the systems supposedly containing ice (from http://helpmymission.com/useful-info/ore-types/ice-field-locations/ )

I cant find any anywhere. I know CCP made ice hard to get now, but, no belts any time i log in to check? I must be missing something.

How do i know if a belt has been depleted, and what time it's likely to spawn? I'm only asking because due to personal life and work, I have a very small window of opportunity a few times a week. I fear i'm not going to be able to keep a POS alive at this rate.

arrrgh! help!

EDIT & PS, i searched all the systems around tash murkon area, and there were no ice belts around here. The only one I didn't check was Gemodi (for obvious reasons).
Attivol
#2 - 2014-07-05 01:43:52 UTC
Did you have the "Show Anomalies" option checked on your scanner?
Paynus Maiassus
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-07-05 06:12:19 UTC
Grobalobobob Bob wrote:
this evening, i searched high and low through all the systems supposedly containing ice (from http://helpmymission.com/useful-info/ore-types/ice-field-locations/ )

I cant find any anywhere. I know CCP made ice hard to get now, but, no belts any time i log in to check? I must be missing something.

How do i know if a belt has been depleted, and what time it's likely to spawn? I'm only asking because due to personal life and work, I have a very small window of opportunity a few times a week. I fear i'm not going to be able to keep a POS alive at this rate.

arrrgh! help!

EDIT & PS, i searched all the systems around tash murkon area, and there were no ice belts around here. The only one I didn't check was Gemodi (for obvious reasons).


Go to dotlan.com and look for systems with a blue ring around them. Those are the ice systems. If you go to one and open your probe scanner and you do not see an ice belt along with the other anomalies, then the ice has been depleted. In high sec ice belts are often depleted or in the process of being depleted very quickly by an ISBoxer. There are plenty of virgin ice belts in low sec pretty much all the time. Of course for 99% of folks, mining there is suicide in 99% of situations. In null there's also plenty of ice, but you've got to be in the right situation with your alliance to be able to mine it, and in those situations your alliance will likely tax the **** out of you or buy your ice from you for pennies.

The answer is to scream loudly for a Rorqual buff that will allow smaller groups to mine in more dangerous space and to cry incessantly for the removal of ISBoxers.
Grobalobobob Bob
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-07-05 10:42:35 UTC
Thanks for the great feedback, appreciated.

I found the problem.

I just randomly logged in this morning about 15 mins from down time, and there's an ice cosmic anomaly. I warped to check on it and on grid there's 19 folks mining like furious and another 3 orcas. I know i keep missing the spawns now.

Frustrating Sad

anyone know of a way to know what time an ice belt had been depleted? At the very worst, we can try and be ready for the next spawn and maybe get a few blocks of ice in before it's hoovered up.
Li Quiao
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2014-07-05 12:57:15 UTC
Grobalobobob Bob wrote:
Thanks for the great feedback, appreciated.

I found the problem.

I just randomly logged in this morning about 15 mins from down time, and there's an ice cosmic anomaly. I warped to check on it and on grid there's 19 folks mining like furious and another 3 orcas. I know i keep missing the spawns now.

Frustrating Sad

anyone know of a way to know what time an ice belt had been depleted? At the very worst, we can try and be ready for the next spawn and maybe get a few blocks of ice in before it's hoovered up.


The only way to get the time of depletion for an ice belt is to be there when it happens (or get it from someone else who knows, but the information chain ultimately has to lead back to somebody who was there at the time).
Keirym Thara
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#6 - 2014-07-05 17:53:26 UTC
Good luck finding even a back-water ice anomaly that isn't pounce-stripped within an hour of spawn, often by multiple-account mega industrialists. It may have been CCP's intention to somehow try to nerf 0.0 Alliances, but in the reality, the change has done nothing but push small corp POS owners out of the ability to mine their own ice.
SJ Astralana
Syncore
#7 - 2014-07-06 01:00:32 UTC
Keirym Thara wrote:
Good luck finding even a back-water ice anomaly that isn't pounce-stripped within an hour of spawn, often by multiple-account mega industrialists. It may have been CCP's intention to somehow try to nerf 0.0 Alliances, but in the reality, the change has done nothing but push small corp POS owners out of the ability to mine their own ice.


I don't understand why a POS owner would want to. The value of the time spent mining the ice is precisely the value of the cost of the ice on market, so it's academic if you have to buy your ice from the guy who spent the time.

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Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#8 - 2014-07-06 03:37:35 UTC
Grobalobobob Bob wrote:
anyone know of a way to know what time an ice belt had been depleted?
New ice spawns about 4 hours after it is depleted, so you can do a rough calculation based on how long you think the ice lasts.

Use Dotlan to scan for nearby ice fields. You might find one that isn't being sucked up by a 10 man Isboxer. The isboxers are usually NPC so you can't wardec them, but you might be able to harass them into leaving if you have some chars that don't mind getting dirty.


Teko Tedeko
CWD INC.
#9 - 2014-07-06 03:45:06 UTC
There's plenty of ice in hi-sec low-player-volume areas. We often have ice available. But I'm not going to share where that is... You'll need to keep hunting around for a likely spot.

But it is there...
NotTheSmartestCookie
Shooting Blues Everyday
#10 - 2014-07-06 07:48:51 UTC  |  Edited by: NotTheSmartestCookie
Teko Tedeko wrote:
There's plenty of ice in hi-sec low-player-volume areas. We often have ice available. But I'm not going to share where that is... You'll need to keep hunting around for a likely spot.

But it is there...


I've found your scumsucker.

He is at Ney IV - University of Caille station in the Ney system, Spaen constellation of Sinq Laison region.

Happy to help.

Edit: and be sure to display your mining permit in a prominent place, as I believe this area is due another round of inspections pretty soon.

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Gorinia Sanford
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-07-06 17:57:27 UTC
NotTheSmartestCookie wrote:
Teko Tedeko wrote:
There's plenty of ice in hi-sec low-player-volume areas. We often have ice available. But I'm not going to share where that is... You'll need to keep hunting around for a likely spot.

But it is there...


I've found your scumsucker.

He is at Ney IV - University of Caille station in the Ney system, Spaen constellation of Sinq Laison region.

Happy to help.

Edit: and be sure to display your mining permit in a prominent place, as I believe this area is due another round of inspections pretty soon.


Ah, yet another one of the self-important "new order" tools stroking their e-peen and beating their chests.
Attivol
#12 - 2014-07-06 18:26:20 UTC
NotTheSmartestCookie wrote:
Teko Tedeko wrote:
There's plenty of ice in hi-sec low-player-volume areas. We often have ice available. But I'm not going to share where that is... You'll need to keep hunting around for a likely spot.

But it is there...


I've found your scumsucker.

He is at Ney IV - University of Caille station in the Ney system, Spaen constellation of Sinq Laison region.

Happy to help.

Edit: and be sure to display your mining permit in a prominent place, as I believe this area is due another round of inspections pretty soon.


Or just mine in a skiff.