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Anyone else hate isk doublers?

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Rende Crow
Baba Yagas
The Initiative.
#1 - 2014-07-05 05:12:08 UTC
Does anyone else hate isk doublers?

I know they are an easy scam to spot, avoid, and IGNORE, but new players might not know that. I feel like these "isk doublers" are bad for the game because they prey upon new players. New players who are trying to learn the game are less likely to continue playing when they stupidly give away their money. Sure its their responsibility to be smart with their isk, but at the same time can anyone make a valid argument as to what isk doublers bring to the game? The answer is NOTHING, and they should be banned from isk "doubling".

I also dont like how my occasional shopping trips into Jita are just filled with spam spam spam.

Anyways, thats my 2 cents! Flame away!
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#2 - 2014-07-05 05:15:35 UTC
Rende Crow wrote:
Does anyone else hate isk doublers?



Too be honest, I'm pretty indifferent about them.

But then, I rarely go into market hubs. And when I do, local is minimized.

Mr Epeen Cool
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#3 - 2014-07-05 05:18:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
No.

And the notion that new players are somehow specially affected is pretty silly since they don't have the cash the doublers are after and since they are just as capable as everyone else to spot an obvious scam when they see one.

Beyond that, ISK doublers provide the valuable service of parting idiots from their money in a highly efficient manner.
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#4 - 2014-07-05 05:33:50 UTC
Rende Crow wrote:
Does anyone else hate isk doublers?

I know they are an easy scam to spot, avoid, and IGNORE, but new players might not know that. I feel like these "isk doublers" are bad for the game because they prey upon new players. New players who are trying to learn the game are less likely to continue playing when they stupidly give away their money. Sure its their responsibility to be smart with their isk, but at the same time can anyone make a valid argument as to what isk doublers bring to the game? The answer is NOTHING, and they should be banned from isk "doubling".

I also dont like how my occasional shopping trips into Jita are just filled with spam spam spam.

Anyways, thats my 2 cents! Flame away!


No, I don't "hate" anyone for how they play in the sandbox. That's the most wonderful thing about EVE online - there is room for everyone. E-bushido nuts, scammers, theives, awoxers, belligerent undesirables, miners, mission runners, null sec sov grinders, whatever.

As for any of these groups being "bad" for the game - I am going to have to disagree. EVE would not be EVE without the scamming, spamming, piracy, theft... all of it :)

What ISK doublers "bring to the game" is called "Emergent Gameplay" - CCP sets up the sandbox and the game mechanics, and pretty much leaves us alone to do what we want with it. To be blunt, your public desire to have people "banned" from playing in the sandbox in a way you don't approve of makes me worry that you really don't understand the spirit and nature of the game you are playing. Dare I ask: what do *you* "bring to the game"? Do you create content?

Don't like tradehub spam? Spend 5 mins everytime you are in a trade hub blocking the spammers. After a few visits - you'll find that tradehubs can be lovely places to chat with others. CCP gives you all the tools you need, you just need to use them - and I think that using the tools you have versus calling for banning specific types of gameplay just makes a lot more sense - don't you agree?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#5 - 2014-07-05 05:40:16 UTC
New players and stupid players are not the same thing. They often intersect, but they are not the same thing.

Besides, haven't you ever heard of "a fool and his money"? Anyway, reported for closure, since it's an unproductive rant.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#6 - 2014-07-05 05:41:55 UTC
Rende Crow wrote:
Does anyone else hate isk doublers?

No.

They don't affect me in the slightest and personal responsibility is fundamental to this game. In that respect, if anything, they make the game better by their presence.
Da Dom
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2014-07-05 05:42:31 UTC
Rende Crow wrote:
New players who are trying to learn the game are less likely to continue playing when they stupidly give away their money.


It's a harsh but valuable lesson about EVE

Because Far-que... That's why.
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-07-05 06:41:18 UTC
you're telling me new players don't know how to ignore things seem to good to be true?
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2014-07-05 06:45:14 UTC
Rende Crow wrote:
Does anyone else hate isk doublers?

I know they are an easy scam to spot, avoid, and IGNORE, but new players might not know that. I feel like these "isk doublers" are bad for the game because they prey upon new players. New players who are trying to learn the game are less likely to continue playing when they stupidly give away their money. Sure its their responsibility to be smart with their isk, but at the same time can anyone make a valid argument as to what isk doublers bring to the game? The answer is NOTHING, and they should be banned from isk "doubling".

I also dont like how my occasional shopping trips into Jita are just filled with spam spam spam.

Anyways, thats my 2 cents! Flame away!


People trying to save the world eventually go mad and try to kill everyone.

I see you're well on your way.

~ Professional Forum Alt  ~
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#10 - 2014-07-05 06:52:19 UTC
Sentamon wrote:
Rende Crow wrote:
Does anyone else hate isk doublers?

I know they are an easy scam to spot, avoid, and IGNORE, but new players might not know that. I feel like these "isk doublers" are bad for the game because they prey upon new players. New players who are trying to learn the game are less likely to continue playing when they stupidly give away their money. Sure its their responsibility to be smart with their isk, but at the same time can anyone make a valid argument as to what isk doublers bring to the game? The answer is NOTHING, and they should be banned from isk "doubling".

I also dont like how my occasional shopping trips into Jita are just filled with spam spam spam.

Anyways, thats my 2 cents! Flame away!


People trying to save the world eventually go mad and try to kill everyone.

I see you're well on your way.


Mashing the "LIKE" button as hard as I can while throwing money at the screen for that one.

:-)

It's just natural selection put to the test :P
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#11 - 2014-07-05 06:59:47 UTC
Nope, an isk doubler rekindled my love of the game when I reached critical burnout.

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Aivo Dresden
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-07-05 07:06:09 UTC
To me they are spammers. What they do with their endless junk rolling over the chat window, often 5-10 times a minute is very much the definition of spamming. While an sich I'm ok with ISK doublers and scamming and all of that, I'm not OK with spamming. I'm not OK with the fact that certain local chat channels can just not be used anymore, because of them. I honestly don't understand why CCP hasn't actioned these as spammers yet. Chribba has tracked this and put the stats together several times in the past. I wouldn't even be surprised if half of these ISK doublers are really just spam bots.
Dave Stark
#13 - 2014-07-05 07:13:52 UTC
Rende Crow wrote:
I feel like these "isk doublers" are bad for the game because they prey upon new players.

i find you so disingenuous that it's sickening.
Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#14 - 2014-07-05 07:13:58 UTC
I might start my own ISK doubling scheme now, with my own bonus room!

[i]"Don't look into another human's bowl to see how much he has ... ... look into his bowl to see if he has enough !" - Sol[/i]
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#15 - 2014-07-05 07:16:57 UTC
Why would you hate someone who is willing to double your money out of the kindness of their own heart, OP?

Sounds to me like you've run afoul of some scammers. These people are obviously not honest isk doublers, and should be avoided.
Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#16 - 2014-07-05 07:22:36 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
Why would you hate someone who is willing to double your money out of the kindness of their own heart, OP?

Sounds to me like you've run afoul of some scammers. These people are obviously not honest isk doublers, and should be avoided.

Hey there, pretty ...

Can I, you know... *winkwink* ... "double" your "ISK" ? ;)

[i]"Don't look into another human's bowl to see how much he has ... ... look into his bowl to see if he has enough !" - Sol[/i]
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#17 - 2014-07-05 07:26:07 UTC
Christina Project wrote:
Domanique Altares wrote:
Why would you hate someone who is willing to double your money out of the kindness of their own heart, OP?

Sounds to me like you've run afoul of some scammers. These people are obviously not honest isk doublers, and should be avoided.

Hey there, pretty ...

Can I, you know... *winkwink* ... "double" your "ISK" ? ;)


I can accept no less than triple.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#18 - 2014-07-05 07:30:16 UTC
Put the pitchfork down dude, you'll just hurt yourself with it.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#19 - 2014-07-05 07:50:14 UTC
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
Sentamon wrote:
People trying to save the world eventually go mad and try to kill everyone.

I see you're well on your way.


Mashing the "LIKE" button as hard as I can while throwing money at the screen for that one.

:-)

It's just natural selection put to the test :P

Hey DJ. Aren't you trying to save something???
Antihrist Pripravnik
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#20 - 2014-07-05 08:06:52 UTC
If they are new to the game, they are not new to this (RL) world.

You just don't get double if you give your money to someone.... anywhere... not just in EVE.

Their spam is a bit annoying, but that's all.
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