Crime & Punishment

~6 months and he's still arguing against a position that literally no one has stated except himself.
Every time I post this on his blog he deletes the comment. I guess here he will click "show" (because he blocks me, in his words, because I give him a headache) then he will instantly get a pain in his brain from the cognitive dissonance and pretend he hasn't seen it.

Then maybe on Monday he will claim "the goons" are still saying ISK doesn't matter.

Yeah, this is quite actually at "legit mental break over a video game" at this point.

Anyone in GSF have a ready number of how many kills the cfc has in its blue space?

If marmite kills in HS count, then CFC hostile kills could put the loss ratio in perspective on home soil. To see how significant those numbers are.

And yet our roams continue, our SRP continues to be paid, our jump bridges are fuelled, our industry will boom with the next patch, and morale is high.

You are trying to kill us by bankrupting us. You have a few hundred billion total. We have many members who have that and more. Separate to that, we collect trillions per month in rent, moongoo sales, and various taxes.

PL/N3 have similar earning power, resources to us and a unified GRR Goons mentality and they still can't do it.

How do you figure you are somehow more competent than either of us?

You finally say something worthwhile.

e.g. please compare your numbers to a similar period before your grrr project. What's that, they were sometimes higher, sometimes lower?

Huh. Weird eh.

Why, it's almost like you would expect a coalition of 30k people to lose a lot of stuff over a month.

You say "didn't want that 3T anyway hurr hurr"

But it's really "Had fun whilst losing ~100mil per person"

I know you're going to reject this, on the basis that you have no concept of what fun is, but I urge you to dig deep, and see if you can't realize you're wasting your life, arguing against yourself about things that happen in a videogame.

Looks like Gevlon actually reached out and demanded posting support. Poor Tora, no amount of patience could make me tolerate those infamous Gevlongrams.

(Gevlon likes to highlight his love of capitalism in those, with the addition of other delusional ramblings)

"Logically coherent but not based on facts" = religion
"Flinging poo and seeing what sticks" = science

The first gets you respect. The second gets you results.

God I freaking love Gevlon's cameo's in this discussion. Just perfect

I like the Goon concept and I think the Goons bring a ton of great content to the Eve sandbox.

But after reading all the Goon tears and playground insults in this thread I can't help but take away the impression that Gevlon has done a real number on the Goons in terms of material losses and all the tears in this thread.

The amount of effort put into this thread alone justifies Gevlon's spend.

In propaganda terms you guys are loosing here.
Didn't want those ships anyway.

I'm surprised the Goon high command hasn't declared this thread off limits. This thread is a damage over time with no tick limit.

In 2007 when I started, goons were goons and goblin was db preacher posting nice little tabulations of goon losses. In the time from then until now goons kicked db preacher out of null, rented db preachers homeland, and due to a quirk of when the old forums changed - stole the alliance tag off db preachers nice little forum posts about goon losses.

The amusing parallels with goblins alliance being taken and him being evicted from his pi hole aren't lost on me, and it would seem that tracking a stat that is closely associated with goon activity has always been a terrible method of foretelling their doom.


I'm already getting the Groundhog Day parallels with this thread, ie goon ship losses tracks activity not military failure. Goon system and station losses track military failure. Such things when they occur will probably occur with reduced ship losses because a root cause of space loss is low activity and fleets too small to engage that get stood down. Ie gevlon is literally predicting in the opposite direction to how goons ( or null ) works.

If you actually read the thread and introduced useful points instead of a rehash of grrrrr goon, then you might draw a more reasoned response.

This dude just nuked my page 50 snipe..

That was the highlight of this thread