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Bring me the head of a CFC titan pilot!

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Cherry Yeyo
Doomheim
#801 - 2014-07-01 18:21:04 UTC
Goons defending Delve and Vale all the way from VFK. Clearly this bounty has crippled their power projection.

Titan pilots huddled in fear unable to loginCry

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Voyager Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#802 - 2014-07-01 19:05:00 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:

We also have the added benefit that we love to sit around doing nowt but drinking and trolling. That and the songs of uncle suas to keep us entertained means we can do hours and hours of structure shoots and blueballing without feeling too much burn. Add on that you can multibox those and play something else on top and it becomes pretty easy to withstand it. I'd hate to see what would happen if we found another group like us though and rolled bore tactics against each other. It would be like watching world championship staring competitions.



Wait, doesn't DBRB just trick newbies into struct bashing by claiming it really is a supercap with the pilot logged? I thought that's how you got the numbers to grind like that.

That, and the Lyris Bomber Mind Control Technique.


When I was a little newbee, one of the first and most important lessons I was told was "Don't go on Boat fleets".

Now I am the bittervit, and it falls to me to keep the old ways alive.



Don't go on Boat fleets.
Radric Davids
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#803 - 2014-07-01 19:48:30 UTC
So, do we actually know what caused Gevlon to be so butthurt against goons in the first place? Some people think he was recruitment scammed (i dont buy it), others think it's because the CFC smashed TEST after his donation board failed to make any difference.

I found this little gem of a blog post a while back, could this be the catalyst to his anti-fun campaign against the goons/cfc?

Quote:
So I made a corp "Grr Goonswarm", wardecced Goons and went on taking down their POCO. The plan was to move the shooting-capable pilots from the wormhole corp into this, but I forgot 1 day role-dropping stasis (why did CCP implement this?) so I had only one Talos for the job. Anyway, I went on shooting it for hours, AFK of course. I put on shield buffer tank, to live long enough to alt-tab back and save the pod if Goons drop. Later I figured that I have a Ragnarok pilot in training who can use large projectiles, so I put in Minimatar battlecruiser skill, after learning lvl 1, I bought a meta autocannon Tornado and joined the corp. My luck was wonderful, just when I entered warp to the POCO, a Goon arrived to the Talos. The Talos warped off, the Tornado landed. Directly into the POCO, which bounced him off, directly into the Goon. Tornado died. The Goon was so happy that he linked that kill in local like a dozen times.

Then other Goons arrived and started to repair the POCO. I had no idea why they bothered as it has pretty good shield regen, but they even commanded some pet to join, who had to go suspect as he wasn't in the owner corp. More than an hour later I checked on the POCO and found them still repping it (they were in the cheapest possible ships) and a Goon frig sitting AFK. So I dropped a ganky catalyst on it. Except it wasn't AFK, it speed tanked the cata and killed it. Yet again, they were happy and celebrated the awesome kill by linking it several times. They all commented on it, with different grammar and tone, so it wasn't one multiboxing Goon, 4 different people were at the keyboard, 3 of them watching reppers on a POCO, the fourth just idling and probably spamming dscan. The opportunity cost of their activity is way over 300M, which is nice compared to my 40M loss (hulls were max insured, I hit war targets, didn't go GCC).
Big Lynx
#804 - 2014-07-01 20:44:46 UTC
Yes, we do know already. He wants to put his mark on eve history.

Big Lynx wrote:
Gevlon's quote of May 2nd in Foo's Eve Musings:

" I'm fighting Goons for no other reason than them being "evil". They never really hurt me and they have nothing I want. I simply want to put my mark on EVE history by this "crusade". What Noir did was evil. Hitting them is as good as hitting Goons. And let's face it, they are much easier target, with the prospect of an early and hilarious victory (titan KM)"

Now all is crystalclear for me. that pub is so amusing.
Pete Butcher
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#805 - 2014-07-01 20:52:32 UTC
Yeah, for some reason he thinks being remembered for an unholy amount of stupidity is better than simply enjoying the game. That's Gevlon logic for you. And he even claims to act rational...

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Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#806 - 2014-07-01 20:55:40 UTC
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:

Killing a titan is it's own reward (you would know this if you understood people), a "bounty" does exactly nothing in real terms.

There aren't a bunch of people sitting around right now, thinking "So there's this Titan, but urghhhh like why would be kill it where's the incentive, if only some blogger with money and no sense would fix this".

Of course there are a bunch of people who wouldn't kill a titan for free, but would gladly do so for 20B: the blues of the titan. As you said, the actual killers will kill it for free, so if a lovely little bee approaches Elo Knight "hey I can tackle a titan for you if you give me the 20B of that pubbie shitlord", Elo will surely say yes.

Wait wait wait. You actually think that 20b is enough to get corps that are large enough to kill a titan to drop allegiance with the CFC?


I assume the blues would be individual players who provide intel for independent corps that will kill the titan.
Big Lynx
#807 - 2014-07-01 21:02:30 UTC
Pete Butcher wrote:
Yeah, for some reason he thinks being remembered for an unholy amount of stupidity is better than simply enjoying the game. That's Gevlon logic for you. And he even claims to act rational...


Idk but gg might had a remarkable status in wow and was at good hope doing the same here in eve. However, i am pretty sure that the only mark he is gonna leave in eve is that of the greatest fool in eve's history.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#808 - 2014-07-01 21:18:28 UTC
Big Lynx wrote:
Pete Butcher wrote:
Yeah, for some reason he thinks being remembered for an unholy amount of stupidity is better than simply enjoying the game. That's Gevlon logic for you. And he even claims to act rational...


Idk but gg might had a remarkable status in wow and was at good hope doing the same here in eve. However, i am pretty sure that the only mark he is gonna leave in eve is that of the greatest fool in eve's history.
Where is this remarkable status? From everything I could ever find, 99% of it was "that Gevlon guy's a moron". Basically his only achievement in wow was achieving gold cap, which is not exactly a tough job. It took considerably more effort to obtain some of the rep achievements than hitting gold cap.

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Big Lynx
#809 - 2014-07-01 21:24:58 UTC
Idk lucas. I never played world of wonkshaft. On EN24 his articles always started with that gold cap shite. Thought that might have been something remarkable.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#810 - 2014-07-01 21:54:55 UTC
Big Lynx wrote:
Idk lucas. I never played world of wonkshaft. On EN24 his articles always started with that gold cap shite. Thought that might have been something remarkable.
Lol
If you don't buy anything you can get to gold cap pretty easily. It's a bit of a grind but if you are a long time player of WoW you can pretty much get there accidentally. As with most of his boasting, it's not anything difficult to do, he just acts like it is so people who don't know better pat him on the back.

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Eyrun Mangeiri
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#811 - 2014-07-01 21:55:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Eyrun Mangeiri
Lucas Kell wrote:
Big Lynx wrote:
Pete Butcher wrote:
Yeah, for some reason he thinks being remembered for an unholy amount of stupidity is better than simply enjoying the game. That's Gevlon logic for you. And he even claims to act rational...


Idk but gg might had a remarkable status in wow and was at good hope doing the same here in eve. However, i am pretty sure that the only mark he is gonna leave in eve is that of the greatest fool in eve's history.
Where is this remarkable status? From everything I could ever find, 99% of it was "that Gevlon guy's a moron". Basically his only achievement in wow was achieving gold cap, which is not exactly a tough job. It took considerably more effort to obtain some of the rep achievements than hitting gold cap.


The interesting thing is in his WoW blog entries he talks about fun... a lot. So I would call he is a troll. But for just trolling this must be one of the most dedicated projects ever.

"Why no EVE for me?

Commenters keep asking the question why don't I play EVE Online. It's a game where scamming, being unfair and ruthless is rewarding, so would fit me well.

It would fit me well indeed. However I'm looking for more than gaming fun while playing. If it would be enough, I wouldn't blog about it. I believe some universal ideas fit to the games and the real world the same way. I want to spread them. I want to test them.

In EVE I'd preach to the clergy. Also, EVE is consensual PvP. You consented scamming, suicide ganking and such by installing the game. You have to live in a cave to expect anything else. If you are surprised that you are shot after touching a "gift to newbies" container floating peacefully, you should really uninstall the game.

I want to bring my ideas to the mainstream. I want to affect people who don't want to be affected. I want to rock their pony-panda-Mylune world and show them that even here you should be ruthless and unhelpful and not at all nice.

I don't want to beat some newbs. I want to beat the system."

Thursday, November 17, 2011

:D

I can see what you see not - vision milky then eyes rot. When you turn they will be gone - whispering their hidden song.
Cherry Yeyo
Doomheim
#812 - 2014-07-01 22:22:17 UTC
Big Lynx wrote:
Yes, we do know already. He wants to put his mark on eve history.

Big Lynx wrote:
Gevlon's quote of May 2nd in Foo's Eve Musings:

" I'm fighting Goons for no other reason than them being "evil". They never really hurt me and they have nothing I want. I simply want to put my mark on EVE history by this "crusade". What Noir did was evil. Hitting them is as good as hitting Goons. And let's face it, they are much easier target, with the prospect of an early and hilarious victory (titan KM)"

Now all is crystalclear for me. that pub is so amusing.



Caring what other people think? How social of him Smile

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Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#813 - 2014-07-01 23:34:03 UTC
Radric Davids wrote:
So, do we actually know what caused Gevlon to be so butthurt against goons in the first place? Some people think he was recruitment scammed (i dont buy it), others think it's because the CFC smashed TEST after his donation board failed to make any difference.

Gevlon believes anyone playing a game to have fun and enjoy the experience is a moron. This belief goes back to him attacking people in WoW for playing to have fun. You see, Gevlon isn't famous in WoW for being a legendary player or anything, he's famous for being a ranting lunatic and a blogging example of the "urgh, filthy casuals" archetype / meme.
Gevlon is part of a small breed of player who, when games moved from being a pure nerd hobby to being a mainstream entertainment medium, felt this was an attack on their identity, and created for themselves the label "hardcore gamer" - to set them apart from the "casuals" who came later.

So you can imagine then how Goonwaffe, a corporation whose only reason for existence is so SA Goons can have fun in Eve Online, is, in it's position as the defacto head of GSF, who leads the CFC, a monument to everything he hates. Here we are, fun loving casuals, and we're on top. All his rantings about how being a-social and having no fun and playing to win being everything are laid small, because the people who are winning Eve, are the people who care least about it.

Gevlon hating us isn't about us rejecting him (though he seems at times angry he couldn't get in if he wanted to) no - it's because we are proof he is wrong. We're proof you can play to have fun, and still win at every victory metric you want to draw up.
Gevlon came to Eve to prove "it's not that hard really" and "being an a-social businessman is the best way to win". Instead, for his countless hours of effort invested, he doesn't have a lot to show.

He's not a famous leader, like Mittani, Grath, or a dozen other names
He's not a famous FC like Laz, Vee, every name you know from PL, or the sexy RnK guy
He's not a famous swine like Istvaan, The Mittani, or them blokes that made a bank one time.
He's not a famous PVP pilot like Kil2, Sard Caid or SirStreamsalot
He's not even famous for his chosen expertise, because his wealth and market tactics are low-tier.

So he's now realised that he has failed his goal, and is desperately (and I would call 6months of solid work AMAZINGLY desperate) trying to prove that his a-social ideas are better than the rest by graphs and things.

Goalposts Gevlon doesn't seem a person able to admit he was wrong, so this twisting in the wind and hoping desperately that someone, anyone, will agree with him might last a while longer.

Also


Titan

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Magnus Cortex
Ginger Industrial Solutions
#814 - 2014-07-02 01:22:49 UTC
/thread
Pete Butcher
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#815 - 2014-07-02 04:50:47 UTC
Eyrun Mangeiri wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Big Lynx wrote:
Pete Butcher wrote:
Yeah, for some reason he thinks being remembered for an unholy amount of stupidity is better than simply enjoying the game. That's Gevlon logic for you. And he even claims to act rational...


Idk but gg might had a remarkable status in wow and was at good hope doing the same here in eve. However, i am pretty sure that the only mark he is gonna leave in eve is that of the greatest fool in eve's history.
Where is this remarkable status? From everything I could ever find, 99% of it was "that Gevlon guy's a moron". Basically his only achievement in wow was achieving gold cap, which is not exactly a tough job. It took considerably more effort to obtain some of the rep achievements than hitting gold cap.


The interesting thing is in his WoW blog entries he talks about fun... a lot. So I would call he is a troll. But for just trolling this must be one of the most dedicated projects ever.

"Why no EVE for me?

Commenters keep asking the question why don't I play EVE Online. It's a game where scamming, being unfair and ruthless is rewarding, so would fit me well.

It would fit me well indeed. However I'm looking for more than gaming fun while playing. If it would be enough, I wouldn't blog about it. I believe some universal ideas fit to the games and the real world the same way. I want to spread them. I want to test them.

In EVE I'd preach to the clergy. Also, EVE is consensual PvP. You consented scamming, suicide ganking and such by installing the game. You have to live in a cave to expect anything else. If you are surprised that you are shot after touching a "gift to newbies" container floating peacefully, you should really uninstall the game.

I want to bring my ideas to the mainstream. I want to affect people who don't want to be affected. I want to rock their pony-panda-Mylune world and show them that even here you should be ruthless and unhelpful and not at all nice.

I don't want to beat some newbs. I want to beat the system."

Thursday, November 17, 2011

:D


So much ambition, so much failure.

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Succendus Tegimens
Hey Fatty With Your Thick Face
#816 - 2014-07-02 10:48:07 UTC
Ten new pages, all of them gold.

Highlights: Xenuria popping in and saying things like he's even remotely relevant to the conversation. Gevlon saying that "fun" can't be quantified (it can; there is a reason there are things such as user satisfaction surveys) and therefore it's irrelevant (it's not). Still no dead titan.

I guess Gevlon did give us this amazing, hilarious thread, so he's done something fun in his time in New Eden.
Froggy Storm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#817 - 2014-07-02 12:17:22 UTC
I'm still waiting for the big reveal that GG is actually George Lucas or some equally insane has been, responsible for ruining something great.
VegasMirage
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#818 - 2014-07-02 13:16:12 UTC
records are being set, I must post here

no more games... it's real this time!!!
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#819 - 2014-07-02 13:20:30 UTC
Hey Ezwal

You wont close this thread.

Something something Moderation something something

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VegasMirage
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#820 - 2014-07-02 13:38:38 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Hey Ezwal

You wont close this thread.

Something something Moderation something something


If CCP closes this thread, then they MUST close the Marmite thread, which may be a great idea.

no more games... it's real this time!!!