Crime & Punishment

to give credit where credit is due this is the one thing you do right and is useful

i consider myself half-responsible for three carrier deaths (it's likely the most relevant i've been in this game) because i scouted them, found them and provided a warpin for a cyno. i never fired a shot at the things myself, though.

i was just wondering how far killmails can be relied on, even with attribution by damage, when it comes to attributing responsibility. even if i'd shot at the carriers, if the mail was attributed by damage (gevlon's term is awful), the responsibility for the kills'd appear to be almost entirely belonging to other people. even though the ships'd never have been found but for me.

well. 'never have been found' means 'not until next week', since the carriers' owner was a multiboxer using all three to shoot an npc poco on the poco. but i think my point stands.

Gevlon doesn't understand these things though, because he doesn't pvp. He sits in a station and fiddles in the market window all day every day, and thinks he can beat the most powerful player organization in the game by paying people who don't even like him to kill them in high sec. Personally, I think de-whoring is pointless, as is all of Gevlons data collection and attempts to prove he is making a difference. It is all pointless because what he is trying to do is impossible even if he were going about it in a better way

His advice is perfect - you'll get bored and quit before the end of your trial period and win eve.

I find it kinda funny that he used the CCP research about new player paths to create a blog post (which shows that those players who don't join a corp and socialize quit the game at incredibly high rates) and then cooks up this piece of advice, which if followed would result in a new player retention rate of close to zero.

Oops, just found the post I was looking for.

I'm pointing at the problem that the game-mechanically optimal path is totally unfun, which is bad game desing. I'm fully aware that social people can't play any game (not even a single-player) without chatting about it with their friends.

By the way this is why the 20B on the titan. If titan pilots don't dare to ask "friends" to scout or cyno for them in fear of awoxes, they might stop logging in. Even better, they value their "fun" higher than their titan and still involve "friends" into their movement.

What do you mean by optimal path? What you do is viewed by most players as boring and unrewarding. You have no friends, no power and no meaning in game. Is that supposed to be optimal? Being alone with nothing worthwhile to do and failing every set up goal, while being scammed left and right (test, new order, marmite, lemmings). And no, we're not dumb to fall for your propaganda. Save it for your blog posts; here you have the real picture of your situation.

You don't like fun, so why do you care if something is "unfun"? To be honest, why do you even play this game? If fun and socialising are bad, then an MMO is a dumb place to be for you. You're basically wasting your life on a crusade to stop gamers having any fun, and lack the vision to actually accomplish anything.

Have you seriously got nothing better to do that post every single day about how much you hate goons? Your entire real life is dedicated to the goons. That's some pretty pathetic stuff right there

And as of yet nothing has changed. How you don't get it when it's been explained even by non-goons to you, I don't know. 20B is nothing, it's pocket change, it's not even close to enough to get awoxers to take run at a titan, since they are not an easy takedown. Even if it were possible, the way you structured your bounty makes it nearly impossible to guarantee the awoxer the 20b. it would have to be a whole awoxing corp with no outside support.

I think he will be more disappointed about the 20Billion not being claimed yet.