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Module: Warp Core Interdiction Shielder
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Jade Blackwind
#1 - 2014-06-23 14:57:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Blackwind
Because AFK bubblecamping is bad and 0.0 needs more people, not less.

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Description

Based on the tier III Interdiction Nullifier technology, this module attempts to grant the ship an immunity to non-targeted interdiction such as mobile warp disruptors and interdiction spheres at the cost of suppressing the ship's sensors and emitting a clear multispectrum signature that makes cloaking impossible.

Structure

- Structure Hitpoints: 40 HP
- Volume: 20 m3

Fitting (low slot, only one per ship)

- Powergrid Usage: 2 MW
- CPU usage: 50 tf
- Cannot be fitted to: Carrier, Dreadnought, Supercarrier, Titan

Miscellaneous

- Immunity to non-targeted interdiction
- Scan Resolution: -50%
- Signature Radius: +50%
- Cloaking Device cannot be аctivated while this module is online (gate cloaking still applies)

Skills Required

- Warp Drive Operation V


Discuss.
Discomanco
We pooped on your lawn
#2 - 2014-06-23 15:09:16 UTC
I'd say no. Nullifiction should be role specifics like T3s and cepters. If a DST got one of those fitted those would be some hard ships to take down.
I'm fine with nullifiction to be only for 2 ships.
Bohneik Itohn
10.K
#3 - 2014-06-23 15:50:12 UTC
This would make HIC's the least desirable ships in the game, and they're pretty low on the list as it is.

AFK Bubblecamping? Is this the same as AFK Cloaky camping? Pretty sure no matter what the situation is, AFK is AFK.

Are you sure you don't mean bubble camping in general? Because if someone is watching Youtube while bubble camping a gate you should by all means feel free to call in a blob to remedy the situation. Don't have a blob of your own? Get to know the neighbors and whisper in their ear whenever you notice a lazy bubble camp. They'll double check your intel and then act accordingly if easy kills are indeed available, and you've just made some quasi-friends that will at least say hello before they shoot you.

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De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2014-06-23 16:10:05 UTC  |  Edited by: De'Veldrin
Bohneik Itohn wrote:
This would make HIC's the least desirable ships in the game, and they're pretty low on the list as it is.

AFK Bubblecamping? Is this the same as AFK Cloaky camping? Pretty sure no matter what the situation is, AFK is AFK.

Are you sure you don't mean bubble camping in general? Because if someone is watching Youtube while bubble camping a gate you should by all means feel free to call in a blob to remedy the situation. Don't have a blob of your own? Get to know the neighbors and whisper in their ear whenever you notice a lazy bubble camp. They'll double check your intel and then act accordingly if easy kills are indeed available, and you've just made some quasi-friends that will at least say hello before they shoot you.


This.

I am quite sure that, should you locate an AFK bubble camp, anyone in nullsec would happily go deprive them of their ships as an object lesson to pay attention when undocked.

Also, these would become mandatory fittings on every supercapital in the game. So, double no.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-06-23 16:59:16 UTC
Bohneik Itohn wrote:
This would make HIC's the least desirable ships in the game, and they're pretty low on the list as it is.

AFK Bubblecamping? Is this the same as AFK Cloaky camping? Pretty sure no matter what the situation is, AFK is AFK.

Are you sure you don't mean bubble camping in general? Because if someone is watching Youtube while bubble camping a gate you should by all means feel free to call in a blob to remedy the situation. Don't have a blob of your own? Get to know the neighbors and whisper in their ear whenever you notice a lazy bubble camp. They'll double check your intel and then act accordingly if easy kills are indeed available, and you've just made some quasi-friends that will at least say hello before they shoot you.

By AFK bubble camp I believe he is referring to when there is 8 or so bubbles surrounding a gate and no one in local.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-06-23 17:08:11 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
Bohneik Itohn wrote:
This would make HIC's the least desirable ships in the game, and they're pretty low on the list as it is.

AFK Bubblecamping? Is this the same as AFK Cloaky camping? Pretty sure no matter what the situation is, AFK is AFK.

Are you sure you don't mean bubble camping in general? Because if someone is watching Youtube while bubble camping a gate you should by all means feel free to call in a blob to remedy the situation. Don't have a blob of your own? Get to know the neighbors and whisper in their ear whenever you notice a lazy bubble camp. They'll double check your intel and then act accordingly if easy kills are indeed available, and you've just made some quasi-friends that will at least say hello before they shoot you.


This.

I am quite sure that, should you locate an AFK bubble camp, anyone in nullsec would happily go deprive them of their ships as an object lesson to pay attention when undocked.

Also, these would become mandatory fittings on every supercapital in the game. So, double no.


I didn't think of cap/supercap when reading first so I was like, well it has a sig bloom so at least anybody at the keyboard can still lock it down but then you made me realise how broken it was.
Jade Blackwind
#7 - 2014-06-23 17:18:32 UTC
Amended the original post with the supercap problem fix.
Bohneik Itohn
10.K
#8 - 2014-06-23 17:21:38 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:

By AFK bubble camp I believe he is referring to when there is 8 or so bubbles surrounding a gate and no one in local.


EVEN BETTER! There is no one to shoot you, and if you are looking for someone to shoot whoever left the bubbles has conveniently helped you set up your own camp!

Having to slowboat out of the bubbles isn't something I'd call a balance issue, let alone so game-breaking that fundamental changes need to be made to warp/anti-warp mechanics.

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De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2014-06-23 18:57:09 UTC
Jade Blackwind wrote:
Amended the original post with the supercap problem fix.


You're still peddaling a solution looking for a problem to fix, so it's still a no from me.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Llyona
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#10 - 2014-06-23 19:04:13 UTC
Discomanco wrote:
I'd say no. Nullifiction should be role specifics like T3s and cepters. If a DST got one of those fitted those would be some hard ships to take down.
I'm fine with nullifiction to be only for 2 ships.


Absolutely not. Interdiction Nullification is a technology derived from sleepers. As such, it should be restricted to T3s only.

CCP really passed up a great opportunity for T3 Frigates.

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#11 - 2014-06-23 23:14:15 UTC
Remove warp entirely. Warp vs Anti-warp problem solved.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#12 - 2014-06-23 23:42:12 UTC
Lol hell no.

This game needs more ways to force a fight, not less.

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One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2014-06-24 00:00:42 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:

Also, these would become mandatory fittings on every supercapital in the game. So, double no.



He covered that actually.

I'd be ok with this going by the given description. A "chance" at immunity. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-06-24 06:11:34 UTC
I'm okay with a module to get your ship through anchorable bubbles as long as it takes a while to come online-say, 30 seconds. It should also cost perhaps 100MW powergrid, so that it's expensive to a cruiser, which pressures them to find alternative methods of getting out (such as MMJD, MWD, or overdrive injector). On battleships the powergrid cost wouldn't be very significant so it would mostly be a low slot alternative to the mid-slot way of getting out of bubbles: the LMJD--and this module would cost less, too! But it would activate slower. Frigates wouldn't miss not being able to fit it since they'd be out of a bubble in 30 seconds anyway.

The main reason I think it should have an activation time is because it can be fit to pretty much any ship. It shouldn't be effective at breaking through active gate camps, but could be good if you land in one in which the campers are AFK, not really ready, or just ill-prepared to take down whatever you brought. It would also help you spend less time stuck in abandoned bubbles.

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Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-06-24 06:29:59 UTC
NO
This is the only thing people have against the flood of Null Bears.

Also eve already has enough run away bullshit such as Warp Core stabs. Inties, Cloaks, Nullifiers.

TL'DR :

NO because of HTFU.

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Jade Blackwind
#16 - 2014-06-24 06:41:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Blackwind
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
This game needs more ways to force a fight, not less.


Luwc wrote:
NO because of HTFU.


This pretty much sums up the thread I guess.
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#17 - 2014-06-24 07:22:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Samillian
Not supported.

I wasn't in favour of T3 interdiction nullification and as much as I enjoy interceptors they should never have shared the technology. I'm very much of the opinion that as annoying as bubbles are they should work for everything or just scrap them altogether.

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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#18 - 2014-06-24 09:49:06 UTC
Damn OP stop shitposting.

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Hairpins Blueprint
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-06-24 10:36:22 UTC
Jade Blackwind wrote:
Because AFK bubblecamping is bad and 0.0 needs more people, not less.

Quote:

Description

Based on the tier III Interdiction Nullifier technology, this module attempts to grant the ship an immunity to non-targeted interdiction such as mobile warp disruptors and interdiction spheres at the cost of suppressing the ship's sensors and emitting a clear multispectrum signature that makes cloaking impossible.

Structure

- Structure Hitpoints: 40 HP
- Volume: 20 m3

Fitting (low slot, only one per ship)

- Powergrid Usage: 2 MW
- CPU usage: 50 tf
- Cannot be fitted to: Carrier, Dreadnought, Supercarrier, Titan

Miscellaneous

- Immunity to non-targeted interdiction
- Scan Resolution: -50%
- Signature Radius: +50%
- Cloaking Device cannot be аctivated while this module is online (gate cloaking still applies)

Skills Required

- Warp Drive Operation V


Discuss.



NO NO NO, man we allready can't kill interceptors and t3's in most situations.

and this crap will have giant pitfall in battle with people just warping off.

thats way it's 0.0 you have bubles deal with it. and they are not afk ....
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2014-06-24 10:52:25 UTC
It's called an MWD / AB... Just overheat the module and burn out of the bubble...
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