EVE General Discussion

The recent deluge of freighter ganking and other hisec lawlessness is a travesty. Yeah I get it, it's Eve you can do what you want, sandbox, HTFU, etc etc etc.

But we people who choose to focus on things other than destructio (and keep Eve running in the process) have no way to fight back! Not just that, but it's worse: those doing productive things are actively helping the destroyers by providing materials, ships, ammo, and fuel! This is terrible!

If you were an automobile manufacturer IRL would you sell your cars to a guy who has a record of using those cars to nudge lorries off the road, or cause horrific traffic accidents on purpose? NO! Why can we not do the same thing?

CCP this is an enemy that only fights on his terms and has the objective of ruining the game. We want to advance and contribute to the game. Give us market pirate blacklisting, or sec status limits on orders, so we can fight them on our terms! More content for everyone and Eve grows.

Seems like a lot of trouble for a feature that is made meaningless by the existence of alts.

Oh, this gonna be good.
Not a terrible idea, at all.

Keep It Simple: set your contact standings. Everyone who is red will not be able to buy things from you on the market or through contracts
Also everyone who has war declared on your corp will not be able to buy things from you on the market or through contracts.

PvPers will have to choose carefully who they gonna shoot, because there may be more consequences than just tears
Not going to be a popular idea, thus CCP is probably not going to do it, and additionally any ideas like this will be shot down.
But it sure is interesting, hypothetically speaking :P


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"F&I is that way ------>"

1/10 some thought and creativity but not much

Put the pitchfork down son, you'r going to hurt yourself with it.

This is a kinda interesting idea. Being able to blacklist certain people does make sense. But to do it en masse is kinda dumb and also all these ideas are completely voided by alts.

So all the talk about Eve having non-violent PvP in the market and stuff is smoke and mirrors? I am aware enabling socipoaths is profitable but I'm asking to limit profits in order to not enable crime. Eve would only "stop running" (under your definition) if everyone jumped on board and limted their transactions. They won't, because it's profitable not to.

Anyway must the solution always be "shoot it"? It's a sandbox, shouldn't there be more options than violence all the time?

It won't work.

I'm a pvper for example. I currently have 4 characters active - pvp, exploration/scouting, nullsec anom/sig running, industry.

Even if someone took a disliking to me because of pvp and decided to block me from buying from them, so what? I don't buy much on this character anyway. Almost all of my buying and selling is done through my industry alt.

That character will never be blocked by anyone because it's an unknown entity, except to one other person on the forum.

So implementing this idea would not affect me one little bit, even if someone wanted to.

LMAO no. Let's not break a core component of the game for RP.

I'm talking about contracts and trades, both of which can be targeted to specific users.

Eh, having fewer orders hurts efficiency by very definition.
You are advocating a massive mess of divergent price points for the same good. That's pretty horrible in and of itself, and just creates pointless complexity that people will have to work around for no good reason.

There are. You just have to choose to use them. Your choice not to do so isn't sufficient reason to break the engine that makes the game turn around.

As is/will everyone. This idea doesn't provide a non-violent solution to what you are trying to do.

I'm all for more diversity and if PvE players have more tools that they feel comfortable using in order to "fight back", then great.

However, many players within Corps/Alliances like CODE., The Marmite Collective, etc. already use their own industry/hauling alts.

Solutions can be used by anyone, even non-violent ones. Introducing non-violent means to fight back will also open up other fronts on which people can also fight against you.

Aside from that, even if the idea could be made to work, the 0.01 ISK battles on the markets mean that if I can't buy the cheapest available in station/system, I can probably just pay an extra 0.01 ISK and buy it from someone else.