Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Any plan on rescaling the X-Large Ship assembly array?.

Just wondering because if we compare the size of ships made in that array, a rorqual doesn't fit in that structure, not mention if we take a dreadnought or a bulky carrier like the Thanatos.

In other things, i like the work you guys are doing, the ideas seems really interesting for avid small scale capital builders like me :D

Undock naglafar from a station ;)

I'm not seeing an increase in the m3 of personal hangar arrays. Any chance we can get that while we're at it?

While i too want a way to steal offline towers, I never understood why offline towers still had shields. I mean the pos bubble doesnt appear till after a password is set, but that seems a weird difference, the POS bubble is the expansion of the tower shield to cover modules and a particular area. since it goes offline when there is no more fuel, why does the tower structure retain it after?

seems to me that offline structures shouldnt have any shields. armor resits are fine i guess as those (like on ships) are not cap or fuel dependent but supposedly built into the structure itself.

Hull resists are weird as the only way to get them on ships is through Damage control modules which require cap, It should likewise be dependant on the tower having fuel, even when getting bashed i suppose, as long as there is fuel in the bay there should be resists and as long as the tower is onlined, shields. but they should both drop when the tower is naturally offlined.

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not to mention bpcs are much less ricky and flexible. Aren't they getting somewhat buffed as well as far as cost to make?

A tower can have fuel and not a POS bubble. The fuel only allows use of the POS bubble. shields run off something else or else I want every ship I cap out to lose all shield instantly cause they have no more energy to keep them going.

Add two new modules.

One that adds 1000 cpu and uses 4 blocks of fuel.

One that adds 1,000,000 power grid and used 4 blocks of fuel.

Place a limit of 2 on a small POS, 5 on a medium POS, and 10 on a large POS.

This gives the owners of small and medium POSs more CPU and power grid without having to move to the next size tower. For the owners of large POSs it gives them the option to go crazy!

It would, it would also make a large POS that more painfull to attack. Remember that highsec dont have dreads doing 10-15k dps, but are left with 1k or less per ship in a reasonable pvp fit.

These are both valid points, The towers shield is not directly tied to the fuel use/disuse. It is the structure itself that retains these properties. Wat i am saying is that, currently there is no significant difference between bashing an online defenselss pos and an offline tower in terms of HP (ignoring reinforced ). This is the part that i feel needs to be changed. With the vast majority of a towers HP in shields, the only part that recharges hp, dropping the towers shield when offline would be a significant change to clearing offlined towers without making it too easy to clear. It is still someones property and should have some resilience to uncoordinated attacks.

If shields are dropped, I think that structures should retain hull resists, as that does not regenerate over downtime and a partially bashed tower will stay partially bashed until it is either repped or taken. They do not have the same significance in bashing that shield regen does.

As to hacking towers for stealing. I was thinking that This would be a perfect use for Strontium in an offline capacity. A large tower has a 50,000 m/3 strontium bay which at max capacity can hold 16,666 strontium units. An odd number when towers use stront in 100, 200 or 400 unit increments and equals 41 hours of rf timer, (1 day 17 hours).
Allow offline towers to be hacked, using the hacking minigame mechanics, a successful hack will remove 600 stront from the bay and render the tower immune to further hacks for one day. An unsuccessful hack will remove 200. This means that it will take 28 successful hacks to empty a large towers fully filled stront bay and it will take 84 unsuccessful hacks. This provides tower owners, those that are still around, to return from vacations or whatever to refuel their towers and defend it. this also provides ways to take possession of abandoned towers but not without ample time for others to notice and attempt to steal the tower themselves. These timers and the amount of stront left within the tower should not be viewable. This should be scaled to the size of the tower to be of equal times.

Large 50,000 m/3 -16,666 stront, 600/200 - 28/84
Medium 25,000 m/3 - 8,333 - 300/100 - 28/84
Small 12,500 m/3 - 4,166 -150/50 - 28/84

these two proposals when used together should offer options that will be used in different situations. variability in stront filling will randomize the theft vulnerability of towers to some degree as will the lowering of recharging hp make them more open to destruction. Neither option makes it too easy, in my mind to kill offline towers and doesnt affect defended towers.

I am also in favor of all structure shields being 0 when offline, and improving online modules shields. although i do not know how well that will work if mods ever get the power rebalance they need.