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Bring me the head of a CFC titan pilot!

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Maichin Civire
#581 - 2014-06-18 18:31:28 UTC
Wait wait wait.

I given up on trying PvP right now on TQ (trying on sisi with few friends), and are currently skilling manufacturing/industry. I don't engage in any fights, I don't destroy any ships (with exceptions of PvE), or lose ones.

In your logic, gevlon, do I even exist?
Lady Areola Fappington
#582 - 2014-06-18 18:54:24 UTC
I'll admit, I really suck at math, and I only understand about a third of the math words thrown out here.

Still, the hard purity of a math ownage shines right through any lack of knowledge.

This is some amazing math ownage right here.

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide

VegasMirage
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#583 - 2014-06-18 19:03:47 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
I'll admit, I really suck at math, and I only understand about a third of the math words thrown out here.

Still, the hard purity of a math ownage shines right through any lack of knowledge.

This is some amazing math ownage right here.


basic stat class, don't give up you'll get there

no more games... it's real this time!!!

Radric Davids
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#584 - 2014-06-18 19:06:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Radric Davids
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
I'll admit, I really suck at math, and I only understand about a third of the math words thrown out here.

Still, the hard purity of a math ownage shines right through any lack of knowledge.

This is some amazing math ownage right here.


Gevlon calls them 'tears,' but thanks. It is kinda basic statistics, probably learned it initially in college but would definitely be rusty if I didn't use this stuff regularly at work.

Most of his 'conclusions' are either a massive reach, or flat out imagined causal relationships - so I just laugh and move on. But when i saw that post I decided to lay the math-smackdown since it was so blatantly obvious that he was trying to out-math people but failing miserably. I think that since he can no longer claim lemming kills as his own, and MoA is getting stomped on around delve, that he has turned to digging up old kb stats to announce to the world his impending victory.

I'm guessing we will not see him re-do his little correlation analysis correctly (because it would result in either proving his claim false, or require actual knowledge of wtf he is doing), but we will likely see what he calls a 'tears' post where he claims we are all crying because he proved he is beating the goons and that we tried and failed to outwit him using big words and nonsensical math (like he tried to do in his last post in this thread).

e: Oh, and I just realized his whole claim was that killing a freighter would decrease the amount of ships you destroy in pvp 6 months later. I guess killing someones hauler stops them from flying frigates
VegasMirage
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#585 - 2014-06-18 19:11:37 UTC
Goons Gone Wild!

no more games... it's real this time!!!

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#586 - 2014-06-18 21:38:44 UTC
Maichin Civire wrote:
Wait wait wait.

I given up on trying PvP right now on TQ (trying on sisi with few friends), and are currently skilling manufacturing/industry. I don't engage in any fights, I don't destroy any ships (with exceptions of PvE), or lose ones.

In your logic, gevlon, do I even exist?

Nope, in Gevlon's data set, you would be categorized as someone not playing / playing very little, and the one and only cause of this is the fact your ship exploded. Doesn't matter if it was insured, your alliance paid for it, or whether you had fun doing it - because your ship exploded you are now less likely to log into the game.
It seems weird that people doing PVP in a PVP game would then make them stop enjoying the game, but Gevlon has proven this irrefutably on his blog, so it must be true.

You might be concerned, since he has made lots of claims before, like how TEST are going to hold us off in Fountain thanks to his great business ideas, but this is the one, friend, this is finally the blog post where a single thing he says has any basis in fact.

(it isn't)

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#587 - 2014-06-18 21:51:09 UTC
Radric Davids wrote:
But when i saw that post I decided to lay the math-smackdown since it was so blatantly obvious that he was trying to out-math people but failing miserably.
[..]
I'm guessing we will not see him re-do his little correlation analysis correctly (because it would result in either proving his claim false, or require actual knowledge of wtf he is doing), but we will likely see what he calls a 'tears' post where he claims we are all crying because he proved he is beating the goons and that we tried and failed to outwit him using big words and nonsensical math (like he tried to do in his last post in this thread).

I don't know what math teaching is like in Hungary, but he seems to think the basic-stats functions in excel are known only to a few people or something. In most Western countries correlation-style analysis and other basic tests like the t-test are something you do between age 15-18, and anything a little more meaty like chi-square/ANOVA you'll do in your first year of college/university if your course is science-based in any way.

To be honest I don't know if Gevlon is:

- unknowning delusional, and is able to shift his perspective without realising it, as a defence mechanism to keep his core beliefs intact -- a bit like how a modern religion will have shifted it's teachings away from the fundamentalism of old faiths (we don't believe the bible is literally the word of God, but we do believe in a Christian God still).

- wilfully obtuse, he knows he's wrong on nearly everything, but doesn't believe being wrong impacts his core beliefs and so keeps plugging at it because, 'hey, one day they will see it my way' -- a bit like how you can prove 99% of evolution theory, but they will hang on to the 1% doubt and claim the opposite conclusion (creationists).

But either way, one thing is clear - hating Goonswarm is a religious experience to Gevlon. It's his reason for being.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#588 - 2014-06-18 23:44:49 UTC
Charles Case wrote:
Gevlon have you ever toasted to yourself while talking to yourself in front of the mirror?


Hm, I may have to try this. My self esteem needs a boost.

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Pete Butcher
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#589 - 2014-06-19 05:28:38 UTC
Gevlon latest blog post wrote:
I've proven what common sense would tell us anyway


There you go. Despite showing the holes in his logic, he still claims being right. Obviously right, even. I wonder if he really believes it or just thinks his target audience is dumb enough to believe him.

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Succendus Tegimens
Hey Fatty With Your Thick Face
#590 - 2014-06-19 07:38:50 UTC
So how about that titan bounty?
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#591 - 2014-06-19 08:52:44 UTC
Pete Butcher wrote:
Gevlon latest blog post wrote:
I've proven what common sense would tell us anyway


There you go. Despite showing the holes in his logic, he still claims being right. Obviously right, even. I wonder if he really believes it or just thinks his target audience is dumb enough to believe him.

It's a subtle masterpiece. In it, he makes up some more bad-math to prove himself wrong, then ret-cons his original theory to show how he was right all along, again!

I'll give him one thing, he likes to live up to the "goalposts" moniker.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#592 - 2014-06-19 08:53:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Khanh'rhh
e: forums in "unintentional double post" shocker.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Tora Bushido
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#593 - 2014-06-19 10:05:55 UTC
Anyone ever made an apple pie in the shape of a Titan ?

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

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Maichin Civire
#594 - 2014-06-19 10:07:24 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Anyone ever made an apple pie in the shape of a Titan ?

That's actually nice idea... I could try
Magnus Cortex
Ginger Industrial Solutions
#595 - 2014-06-19 19:39:28 UTC
Succendus Tegimens wrote:
So how about that titan bounty?

Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#596 - 2014-06-20 00:15:21 UTC
Pete Butcher wrote:
I wonder if he really believes it or just thinks his target audience is dumb enough to believe him.


I'd like to believe it's #2, but this late in the game I'm positive it's #1.

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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#597 - 2014-06-20 04:37:00 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Anyone ever made an apple pie in the shape of a Titan ?

I think there's other things that work better in that shape.

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Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#598 - 2014-06-20 10:02:20 UTC
How Gevlon's mind can rationalize away 30 pages of being dunked without a single person at any time ever agreeing with anything he says
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Let's decide this question, when something is tears/trolling and when it is not?

The answer is simple: always. Every single piece of communication between enemies are tears or trolling.

Also, as he has stated, anyone who agrees with a GSF poster is obviously an alt.

Therefore, everything anyone ever says about his laundry list of terrible ideas, that have never come true in any fashion, is just tears!

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Pete Butcher
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#599 - 2014-06-20 10:12:37 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
How Gevlon's mind can rationalize away 30 pages of being dunked without a single person at any time ever agreeing with anything he says
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Let's decide this question, when something is tears/trolling and when it is not?

The answer is simple: always. Every single piece of communication between enemies are tears or trolling.

Also, as he has stated, anyone who agrees with a GSF poster is obviously an alt.

Therefore, everything anyone ever says about his laundry list of terrible ideas, that have never come true in any fashion, is just tears!


Actually his latest blog post is pretty much filled with tears itself. You can translate it to:

Quote:

How can these people claim I'm wrong? I can't be wrong! :tears:
I'm too poor and ******** to join SA and goons rejected my invitation. :tears:
I can't do **** to them and my wallet is empty. :tears:

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Trii Seo
Goonswarm Federation
#600 - 2014-06-20 10:41:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Trii Seo
Okay, I can't match the levels of math dunking. But I feel a needless desire to post...

So by saying "This will keep me busy for a year or more" he actually already predicted how long it'll take him to give up?

I mean, this is all a cookie-cutter movie story about a hero going bad. Our young, brave knight starts his fight against an evil, evil empire (responsible for the untimely destruction of their thatched roof cottage, no doubt). In his quest for revenge he starts to achieve some progress (taking hisec POCOs, briefly in our case) while preaching his desire to fight evil.

In his grand crusade however, he's becoming just as twisted as his enemy - if not more. His "deadzone POCOs" have shafted hisec industrialists more than the evil empire, and the evil empire had sane tax rates in place before. He rallied the young and powerless peasants of hisec, funded them to fight the evil... and then promptly sold them to N3/PL as pets in chains (Instead of continuing the fight near their enemy, they will toil in the rat mines of Oasa.) because "numbers said so". It's a rule not to screw with your blues even in a hellhole like the CFC. Gevlon can't even keep that up - effectively scamming many new players (again, not even GSF scams actual new players.) and selling them out to N3/PL.

All we need now is the Evil Emperor (reprising his role, The Mittani. A round of applause please.) pointing out that Gevlon had become more evil than those who wear the dreaded fatbee emblem. Then saying something like "Join us, and together... no wait, you're the pubbiest of all the pubbies, and your posts are so bad we've changed the unit measure of shitposting to 'Gevlons'." (With the current record for worst post of all time being at 0.05 Gevlons. It is rumored that exceeding 1 Full Gevlon will collapse the entirety of internet into a black hole).

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