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I was talking about the anchored state. If fuel expires, it goes from Online -> Anchored. That restarts the two week abandonment timer.

After that two week period, if more fuel isn't put in, it transitions from Anchored -> Abandoned, and anyone can scoop it or take possession of it.

Yeah, well, I submitted my here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=352968&find=unread

Obviously the wrong place now when I think about it, but for capital builders TL; DR:

- An insane clickfest coming up
- Logging in every 14 hours to put in new BPC:s
- OR having literally tens of billions worth of BPOs at a lowsec POS *lol*
- Having all your mineral eggs in one POS-shaped basket OR warping a freighter in and out like there’s no tomorrow

Devs have already addressed that issue by increasing the number of max runs on all T1 blueprints to last at least 48h of manufacturing.

No major changes planned for outposts right now. They are a royal pain in the rear exhaust pipe to touch, code wise.

You're confusing one asking for "semi-consistent internal logic" for demanding "realism." A common mistake. As consistent logic is even less common in reality than the sense anything is real.

Placing the ISK sink directly upon non-station production is somewhat dense. Making one truck legions of homeless, tourists, damsels, slaves, and/or various sized groups of exotic dancers around the universe to man factories (that are suddenly not automated due to space magic) would be a more logical. But considering the rallying cry surrounding the new industry systems is "less busy work, and by less we mean more," it would not go over well to directly tell people they need to kidnap some NPCs to work in their orbital sweatshops, and pay them living wages so they may support themselves in the thriving economy that no doubt exists on the surface of the gas giant moon which their new employment orbits.

Of course, this was probably all covered in that "work teams" blog, that most of us just skimmed because we all knew there was no way in hell CCP was going to make players pay, on top of fuel costs, to use structures they they built, deployed, and maintain. As that would simply be insane.

I'm not sure I understand how to get a max-run tech 2 BPC (for ammo). I tried making a 10 run BPC. I am currently inventing on it, but it's telling me I'll only get a 1 run tech 2 BPC out of it. Am I doing something wrong?

So really, what are my faction standings going to be good for now?

Also we are paying out of pocket to a team to work on items in a POS? If I deploy these POS in wormhole space to the teams spawn from my ass?

Can I leave my ship and enter the POS so I can walk up to the female member of the team and do as I slease with them?

Come on team these are importing things to consider... but no all jerkiness aside what are the faction standings going to do now that I worked my ass off for them.

I'm pretty sure it's not risk free. There is plenty of people that lots tons of capital BPOs to corp infiltration and stock manipulation.

http://massively.joystiq.com/2010/09/11/eve-online-player-steals-45-000-worth-of-isk-in-massive-investm/


But CCP doesn't care.. They found that large loss to invested players is good advertising for more new players to join.

Them PISSING ON ME must make them happy cause there is no way I'm getting back that time I though I was investing in building a good faction standing rep.

Couple more thoughts, some may be refined previous mentioned ideas.

"Abandoned" High-sec towers - the Low & Null operators are being completely truthful when they say taking out an idle tower with sub-capitals is slow. Even though it might be entertaining on a slow day to cull them, I think a more automated method would make sense in High-sec. In fact there is already a mechanic in place to be modeled after: the decay of anchored containers after 30 days of inactivity. So I would venture a suggestion that once a tower goes idle for over 30 days that the empire it is in impounds the tower, arrays, and all materials contained (similar to items in offices when you don't make your rent payment). A neat twist would be after a prolonged period of impound the empire would sell the standard items on the market at current price and auction off via a contract the individual faction and T2 items in the closest station, off course that is more of wishful idea on my part.

Factory and Labs - Considering POS structures are in space, the most expensive thing a space based structure to maintain is life support systems which logically would mean, particularly in factories, that automation via AI and robotics would be the standard not the exception. In regards to labs it would be very much the same unless dealing with biologicals. So the whole premise of having a human based workforce at an array is illogical and counter intuitive also completely destroying the idea of labor cost at them. Further ruining the whole labor cost premise is the operation of POS arrays in a wormhole, considering the labor force would have to be brought in by capsuleers in the first place.

Removal of Remote from office BPs - Many have been focused on the security aspect of this issue, however with the advent of using prints from containers it is almost a moot point as long as the prints are locked in an audit container with the contents viewable they still can be used. However my argument against it is that it is quite possible for a corporation particularly with this new scaling nonsense at POS'es have multiples in a given system possible one for research and another or 2 for manufacturing due to multiple array bonuses and PG/CPU limits. Moving around prints in that example graphically shows the issues involving decentralization of prints, particularly major hurdles in group workflow and cooperation. The arguments for this change are flimsy at best. least valid is risk versus reward statement, further more in my testing of the new UI it doesn't have any apparent reason to force the change in and unto itself. This particular aspect of S&I worked, made sense in application, and doesn't make sense in removal.

in order to satisfy all of the whiners in the thread, cut the max bonus in half for all of the pos things (leaving the per-array bonus the same)

they will magically be happy even though they've gained nothing