EVE General Discussion

Here's one thing I've wondered about this. I gave my corp full API (and alliance some API details too, don't remember exactly what though). So at the very least my corp can read my mail.

I have two messages from GMs in my mailbox. It's against the EULA to share GM correspondence. So if someone pulls a GM mail from my API (and I know you can since I can see them in EVEMon) and posts it somewhere, does this mean that I've violated the EULA? Even if it doesn't, is some trigger happy GM going to assume that it was me who shared it, and bring the hammer down anyway?

I think I'll file a support ticket.

I could just delete the message but any rule that says I'm obligated by EULA to delete private correspondence is a rule that needs revision.

They didn't, because as I said I can see them in EVEMon. I checked that as I was writing that post.

I'm not about to explain all the details of the API combing process or spy-hunting tactics, if that's what you're fishing for.

The assumption is that if it's not full, then the recruit wants to omit some information, such as their eve mails, wallet transactions, assets, etc, for whatever reason. All of those can be used to assess risk, and weed out BadSpies. Any item that any player would logically wish to hide, for innocent reasons or otherwise, is useful info for risk assessment.

Will it make your recruitment airtight? No, of course not, and no one thinks so. But it does make it easier for a spy to make a mistake. And they do make mistakes, regularly, giving you the opportunity to see them. As opposed to never having the opportunity to see that data.

I've seen it argued that since full API info does not assure you will catch all the spies, then it's worthless. That's a logical fallacy that shouldn't require explaining.

If you believe that a limited API offers equivalent security opportunities, then would you mind giving an example of which elements you'd propose a recruit ought to be able to omit?

In 10 years Ive never given my full API nor will I ever to any corp no matter how good they think themselves.

W-space corps are another beast in it's entirety.

Sucks I'm struggling with this nearly full API just to join a Corp's Teamspeak. They switched from Mumble to Teamspeak and now require I think its a nearly Full API just to join the Teamspeak.

Still in the corp but thats cuz they haven't kicked the people who haven't registered yet.

I'd prolly be fine with a Full APi to the CEO of the Corp but clearly some of his officers are shadey, and less than polite about the trash talking on teamspeak and in game Corp channels.

4ish month old account speaking.

oh look a heist in a video game

i'm going to play that video game to moan on the forums about how these things shouldn't happen

I only join corporations that don't require a full API. So that tells you something.

Depending on your corp history, KB information, and other factors, it's not unrealistic for a corporation to ask for a full API key. They can't do anything with it other than make sure you're not an alt or lying to them so it's not like there's much of a risk. If you don't like it then feel free to not join that corporation. API checks don't eliminate the possibility of corp thieves or awoxers but it makes them work harder to conceal themselves. Teamspeak API's arent usually full api's. Its just used so that when you leave the corporation you're no longer able to hold any rights on that TS server or join their Jabber server (if they have one).



Like I said though, if you don't want people snooping then dont join/apply to them.

I would be hesitant for a couple reasons. One, most counter-intel types don't know the difference between a spy and a saboteur. If you're not competent enough to begin to do a proper risk assessment, because spies and saboteurs will have different behavior patterns, who says you're competent enough to keep an API secure? Also, a lot of CI types don't seem to understand Federal privacy laws and where the line is between metagaming and committing a crime that will result in hard time (not to mention a complete ban from ever owning a computer that can connect to the internet).