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Moraugh
u.k militia forces
Fraternity.
#1 - 2014-06-05 07:44:59 UTC
I tried google-ing and i got all kinds of mixed responses and nothing really recent so i figured id ask here. Is dron occupied null sec less profitable then the other factions since they dont drop loot?

Some posts from years ago (only ones i could find) said drones have higher bounties to compensate but thats also more taxes vs item sales and finding good items...

Im asking because im looking to join a null sec corp soon and there are two so far i like the feel and members of one being in drone space the other being in sansha space (which i main lasers so as far as damage type im not too concerned)

So could someone break it down for me which one ratting in would be more profitable. Thanks in advance
Moraugh
u.k militia forces
Fraternity.
#2 - 2014-06-05 09:19:52 UTC
Any input on the actual question
baltec1
Bat Country
The Initiative.
#3 - 2014-06-05 09:33:49 UTC
Moraugh wrote:
Any input on the actual question


Around the same. The old problem was after CCP put bounties on the drone anoms they didn't have faction drops.
Isuki Akozzi
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-06-05 11:14:04 UTC
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ISD Alliance
#5 - 2014-06-05 14:58:33 UTC
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-06-05 16:31:57 UTC  |  Edited by: LUMINOUS SPIRIT
To answer your question - standard ratting is nearly identical in isk/hour across all regions. Drone rats are a little bit easier to kill i find because they dont do ewar. loot is not that big of a deal.

But, you dont want to go to drone regions.

Drone regions are terrible for 3 reasons:

1) No good exploration sites. Other sites have DED complexes, chances for deadspace loot. Drone regions only have drone-specific exploration sites that drop tech 2 salvage - which is worthless after certain patches. Until this is looked at, exploration will remain sub-par to other regions.

2) No PvP. Density of players is so low that there is virtually nothing to do. Blame XDeath and Goons - they cleansed the drone regions back in 2009 or 2010, I cant remember when exactly, but i was in that war on the ORC/Ethereal Dawn side, since then the entire area has become a deadzone. Before, drone regions were occupied by a dozen smaller alliances, and there was action. Now, all station systems are empty. There a few ratting carriers here and there, maybe 2-3 systems are occupied, and technetium moons are all farmed, but, its all dead otherwise. Talk about killing a community.... pricks.

3) Logistics. Drone regions are like the arctic, hard to move into and out of, very long supply chains. With no proper jump bridge network to speak of, you are better off living elsewhere.

I recommend you move to provi, or fountain. always good mix of action and PvE there. Dont join drone regions, its all renters and a path to stagnation and decay. your grind will make some dude rich from taxes, and ultimately goons, but you wont get any enjoyment from it.

Sansha is also very good, the faction points from LP and certain other things sell very well on the markets. Not the easiest rats to kill, but not the worst either. Move to sansha space, less hassle then sov-owned areas.

EDIT - if you want to try drone regions, grab a small POS, set it up somewhere deep, around 2G-, F9-, is all empty 10 jumps in all directions, and try it. No need to join corp, no need to pay taxes, just to try go and rat there for a week see how you like it.
Brendan Anneto
Gladiators of Rage
Fraternity.
#7 - 2014-06-05 17:08:49 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
The only thing that Drone regions is good for is super cap building. Apart from that it has horrible logistics chains to get out there thus it has a very closed market forcing you to make a lot of things yourself. It has very bad intel on enemy fleets roaming through because it is all owned by renters*Snip* Please refrain from using racial remarks. ISD Ezwal.

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Saisin
Chao3's Rogue Operatives Corp
#8 - 2014-06-05 19:54:59 UTC
Another specificity of drone region is that you usualy can't linger on the gates for long, as more often than in other regions, there are drones NPC there..

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handige harrie
Vereenigde Handels Compagnie
#9 - 2014-06-05 22:29:28 UTC
Drone space has a number of Pros and Cons compared to other space.

Pros;

- Compact. all systems are really compact and regions are generally speaking near other Drone Regions (LY wise). They're far away from Empire, but with a proper JB network or Cyno network, it's very well manageable.
- Tank on NPCs. Drone NPCs are some of the easiest drones to shoot at, if I remember correctly they don't do all that much DPS, have no E-war and only have a passive buffer tank.
- New Faction Mods. While indeed, Drones don't have any loot to speak of and terrible salvage, they just got some nice Faction mods for Drone damage amplifiers, Omni tracking links and all other Drone upgrades.
- Salvage. You get all types of salvage from drones.

Cons;

- If you don't have a solid logistics route setup it can be tricky to get stuff to and from Empire.
- Drones have no normal loot and really crap amounts of salvage.
- Exploration is not worth it. This might change depending on what happens with the use of Augmented and Integrated drones though, they have no faction towers or other nice goodies.
- DED complexes are crap. This is still a thing and untill CCP adds some proper BPC's and Deadspace loot it'll stay this way most likely.

PVP in the drone regions is pretty appalling, but you have some nicer regions nearby. Vale of the Silent or Geminate is near the middle of the Drone regions, Tenal/Venal near the north and Etherium Reach (LXQ) near the south of the drone regions.

The amount of ISK you can make is the same across the board pretty much and doesn't defer much from other regions.

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Dominus Tempus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-06-05 22:33:05 UTC
Aren't there drone officers like every other section of null?
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-06-06 00:48:26 UTC
Moraugh wrote:


So could someone break it down for me which one ratting in would be more profitable. Thanks in advance


Or you could just go find out for yourself.

Questions and asking for advice is one thing, and almost always a good thing.

BUT exploring and discovering the game in all it's coolness can only be done by DOING.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-06-06 02:22:19 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Talk about killing a community.... pricks.


It was an accident. One of our allies went there looking for kills & the alliance that lived there at the time collapsed over it.

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Clusterfunk Coalition
Doomheim
#13 - 2014-06-06 02:30:56 UTC
Drone Space will be perfect for you, if you're Russian.
Solecist Project
#14 - 2014-06-06 12:24:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Says he wants to join a nullsec corp ...
... actually only cares about isk/hr.

Would not recommend recruiting him.

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De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2014-06-06 12:31:57 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Talk about killing a community.... pricks.


It was an accident. One of our allies went there looking for kills & the alliance that lived there at the time collapsed over it.


We didn't want that space anyway.

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HeXxploiT
Doomheim
#16 - 2014-06-07 21:45:55 UTC  |  Edited by: HeXxploiT
Peoples perspectives are always interesting and varied.
Have lived all throughout the drone regions over the years I can tell you that yes it is as profitable as other regions and possibly even more so simply because it is so spread out that one has less interruptions when mining or running sites. Although there are not the large variety of combat sites as in other regions the two main combat sites appear frequently. faction drones drop T2 salvage and escalations can be quite profitable. I got bored of my high-sec business last month and joined a corp in the drone regions for a couple of weeks. In a three day period I killed two officer spawns worth multiple billions. Yes one has to go a little further for pvp but the drone regions definitely have their perks.
Pine Marten
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-06-08 02:21:39 UTC
HeXxploiT wrote:
Peoples perspectives are always interesting and varied.
Have lived all throughout the drone regions over the years I can tell you that yes it is as profitable as other regions and possibly even more so simply because it is so spread out that one has less interruptions when mining or running sites. Although there are not the large variety of combat sites as in other regions the two main combat sites appear frequently. faction drones drop T2 salvage and escalations can be quite profitable. I got bored of my high-sec business last month and joined a corp in the drone regions for a couple of weeks. In a three day period I killed two officer spawns worth multiple billions. Yes one has to go a little further for pvp but the drone regions definitely have their perks.


I am probably not the only one who doesn't believe that.
Antihrist Pripravnik
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#18 - 2014-06-08 03:07:53 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Says he wants to join a nullsec corp ...
... actually only cares about isk/hr.

Would not recommend recruiting him.

Why not? There's plenty of renter corps/alliances out there who would be happy to have players like this. Smile