Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Use your logic you too a Simple CBC can manage a simple frigate with web/scram, CBC have more tracking and have drone bay, lock time not bad, batter tank than Attack Battle Cruiser.
ABC have nothing to deal with it, lock time really slow, when a simple frigate with web/scram warp out near you you're dead, So i suppose that a ABC that cost 10X the price of a frigate have to be catch so easilly and have to look does thing turn around you until you die, So LOL.

It seems that it is a bit late to get input into the implementation of this module in before it is actually launched, but I just want to say that I oppose this modules existence entirely.

The MJD should stay niche to BS' not forcing all smaller engagements to have scramblers.

The only good thing I can say about these modules is that there are only a very limited number of ships that can actually use the, which is the next best thing to them not existing in the first place I guess.

After reading through more of the thread I've changed my mind. Not only should the jump drive not be implemented for battle cruisers, but afterburners, micro warp drives, warp core stabs, and cloaking devices should also be removed, and warping in general should be nerfed.

Utlimately, I think the only thing that will fix Eve and keep scores of leet pvpers from unsubscribing like roaches scattering under a light is for the ability to warp when an enemy ship lands on grid to be totally abolished, and the old 10km off the gate warp should be reinstated so that leet pvpers have more time to catch other pvpers and engage in epic leet pvp.

We all know that interdictors, warp disruption bubbles, and gate camps are all horribly underpowered and need an emergency buff lest solo pvp die forever.

[End Sarcastic Rant.]

P.S. I agree that the battleship as a class could use some help to make them more relevant outside of massive fleet fights. At present the biggest thing they have going for them is their potential to fit large neuts, since those can effectively cap out and doom smaller ships quite quickly. That's great, but it essentially forces a battleship to fit neuts to deal with smaller ships, and . . . actually . . . Yeah maybe battleships are in a roughly okay place. It would be nice to have more options to apply dps to smaller and faster ships, I think there should be a way to fit a battleship to be an anti frigate and cruiser platform if you want to, just so long as you have to sacrifice your effectiveness against larger ships.

Because would make interceptors and any fast ships as well as long range ships useless.

Also MJD warp at 100 km. THe minimum warp distance is 150 km.

Hisec? Are you serious? I thought we were discussing PVP.

I don't see where is your problem here.
Yes we use good ships and good setups.
Yes we feel comfortable to fight in 1-2 Bills worth T3s and with 3-4 Bills worth implants in our heads on dayly basis.
Guy lost ~80m, we were risking ~6 Bills each ( It could be cyno ship, bait - you never know ).

Another thing man, semi good fitted Prophecy - 500 DPS at least + 300 DPS from gate guns. Try to fight that yourself you will see how close it is to die in fire in such conditions.

Then, try do all above in cloaky Loki I use.

With latest changes we are forced to use +3 True Sasha Warp scramblers or even two on ship because warp disruptors became obsolete.
Most people use stabs you see.
You think killing is an easy job?
Imagine that most of time we have to watch targets for long time before they do a mistake and Its not fun to waste 2 hours of waiting for guy who is stabbed to teeth in situation when cloak + MWD - a tactic old like Eve itself would save him from 99% of camps.
But cloak+ WMD requires a skill and a bit of nerves to do it right while stabs are foolproof.

I'm glad this module is coming for CBCs

Really really glad.

I'm going to use it to shove my harbinger up your Ishtars ass. Repeatedly.

The kiting setups have been a cancer on this game. You get to keep range and drop your drones, nothing can catch you and you get to sit back and announce to yourself that your a leet pvper for pounding slow ships with short engagement windows to death whilst somehow thinking this is a fair or equal fight. Yes yes I know there are no fair fights, this is Eve. But to paraphrase poorly some fights are fairer than others.

When we gate camp we do it with a boosted proteus at zero on the gate, this means that we can get hot dropped and you know have a fight. My corp runs with large numbers of scrams not points for a reason. And tbh if a battlecruiser jumps into a gate that we are on in low sec I would say it is killed almost 100% of the time, cloak or stabs do not help.

So roll on the MJD. I don't see it as a get out of jail free card, I see it as a weapon to be used to close the range, engage scram and club you to death.

Perhaps the people that like to kite can go look for each other and kite each other to boredom. Roll on Kronos, back to BS and BC fleets.

Nope. They have not been. Kiting is one of the 2 only ways LEFT in game that a group can engage large superior numbers of enemies. The other is massive logistic !@#!@##!..


Anyone that use any other way of combat is relyign on numeric superiority, or enemy stupidity to not lose.


The constant nerfing of everything like kitign is the cancer on this game, that pushes more and more into a BLOB only game.

Contrary to the myth, msot of the kiters are much more likely to stay and fight than to run away. In fact peopel use kitign ships sothey can STAY and FIGHT, not run away as soon as more targets appear in local.

So the cowards are not the kitters, its EXACLTY the other way around.

These posts are brilliant.

How do you catch said "risk-adverse carebear"?

Solution: Fit a scram!

But wait, then you complain you might die.....

Remind me, who is the carebear again?


If you want risk free engagements, the asteroids are over there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Wow not gonna lie ccp this is silly the whole point was to use it on a oracle or a talos why cant you use them on T3 cruisers?!

Make it useful, let t3 battlecruisers use it!