Player Features and Ideas Discussion

If you see, in all situation not in scram range, existing fast kiter can warp out. I think it very disbalanced, and remind "I WIN' button.

Hey CCP features and ideas!

What about making MJDs script-able?

Reduce them to about 75% of their current attributes (distance, cooldown, spool?), and then add scripts to increase them all to current levels, or reduce them to 50% of their current levels. Or just two of the variables and leave the third at a set amount?

Balance as you see fit, of course. I like the idea of more options for this module. It also adds uncertainty when you see that pretty spool-up effect.

Engagements are not usually you vs blob trap, or if yours are, you need to work on your skills mate.

But why would you have to stay tackled if the local spikes? Disengage. Again, the skills issue.

Scram is actually the best counter to kiters, which by itself makes it viable in many situations. Again, you need skill to get into scram range of a typical linked "solo" kiter.

Flying a ship with scram requires not only skills, but balls (this concept may be unknown to hisec people) since you actually risk your ship, and aren't guaranteed a clean exit based on your fit like when kiting. Now when a module that does not guarantee a clean exit on some ships is introduced, you claim this hurts PVP?

Anyway, the whining of these risk-averse pilots drowns the real issue- MMJD range is too long to make it an interesting module to fit on CBCs. Short range of CBCs marginalizes this module instead of making it a tactical choice, CCP pleas make it 50km. It would still make the whiners butthurt, but also make solo CBCs a bit more viable in the current meta.

50k is still too long. If ccp is hell bent on adding a ring of teleportation to the game for cbc then it should be limited to 20-30km. That way you get the option of teleporting right into the kiter without it being an automatic gtfo card.

Hello CCP, sry for my Eng, I`m from Ru community and would like to convey to you an overall assessment of Ru PvP pilots from eve-ru forum. There are several things that cause issues, maybe they were previously announced here, forgive, if so =)

I want see on problems with MMJD from two different positions: 1st-solo PvP, 2nd-roaming fleet PvP.

1st position:
-If I kite ship with warpdis (Cynabal, Vagabond, NOmen etc.) I can`t tackle close BC in open space (out of gates and stations), because he can jump out. I think you break this balance between close range ships (big DPS and tank, but slow and can`t way out if open cyno, because it`s scram range) and kite ships (low DPS, low tank, but big speed and warp dis range). But if I kite ship, I`m very bad kill close BC, because he has a lot of tank and he too can damage me, but if we near gate or station he can go into station or gate from me. I have a big problems on kite ship with killing BC now, after MMJD I can`t kill BC never.
- If I`m on big tank and big DPS ship (scram range), then there is no sense of MMJD (scram range). That is, such actions you enter imbalance between ships with warp dis and warp scram, but it does not give any opportunity BC to attack the kiter, just to get away, too little sense.

2nd position:
-Our gang (close range crusers (Augoror Navy)) camp in null gate with Sabre, passes to us gang of MMJD Ferox, 90% Ferox`s jump out and work on your`s optimals, we approch to-> and 50% pilots die, but wen we be near (20km) they are again jump out. There are no adequate ways to not let them go.
-About Attack BC, I think you understand that if you give MMJD them it was a realy BIG BIG BIG problem for all fleet formats, we`ll all fly on Naga... again. And this format have no counter mearse, NO
-BC is hot BS, and it big difference. BC have low price, low SP and very very mass ship. But on BS LMJD too imbalance, but you have not noticed, because by BS do not fly roam fleets, only CTA fleet.

So, I see 3 problems with it and way out from it:

1st:eed to somehow give solo pilots disable MMJD without going into scram range (faction warp dis can disabled MMJD) or give jump range <50km or give big couldawn (100-150% bonus from LMJD) for MMJD.

2nd: Interdiction probe, interdiction sphere/beam disabled MMJD (and maybe LMJD too), I think this is true with respect to the role of these ships, because they loose your role in fleet.

3nd: Warp dis from interceptor disabled all MJD (now BS on anomalies can jump out, and nullifire don`t help interceptors when you balance them). But you must change nullifire bonus to warp dis bonus (warp dis disabled all MJD).

PS: Better way it`s give MMJD only for Transports, so no need to find a balance with this OMG MJD that can not be found <75%

Skip Drive: consider making the jump distance a RANDOM amount, rather than fixed.

It can either save your bacon, or put you into the frying pan.

Heavy brawling cruisers aren't much faster than battlecruisers in some cases. Granted, CCP should probably do something about the pants-on-head ******** nature of the current within class dichotomy between brawlers and kiters rather than just slap an MJD on everything and call it a day, but it's not just CBCs that have an issue.

This Game has already become a carebear fest.

Please, for the love of all that is great, Stop putting in escape tactics into the game!

Warp mechanics make it almost impossible to catch someone who's got a heart beat in anything other then a interceptor.

Now your gonna make it a requirement for that interceptor to need a Web AND a scram to actually catch anything it has a chance of catching?

How about this situation that i see daily..

Pray warps into mission.. MJD's.. shoots.. then MJD's again. Hostile comes in.. scans him down.. warps to his mission.. and the guy is 300km away.

Or how about this, Someone afk ratting in a belt of 20.. You jump in, start D-scan and find them within seconds.. warp to his location. Just as you land he MJD's.. lands at full speed then warps.

These tactics are ruining the game for everyone other then farmers and cearbears. What about the people who like small scale roams and solo engagements? You can only really catch anything these days on a gate, and if your alone or in a small group.. they simply burn back to gate and split your force.. or cause you to do the stupid Stargate waiting game..

Also, please get rid of the interdiction bubbles that don't stop anything already initiating warp..

i think it's crazy that all a pilot has to do it click "warp" before i light my bubble before it'll catch him. again.. another mechanic designed to enable farmers and hate on anyone that actually takes part in PvP

Back in my day we actually used pilot skill to disengage and escape.. Whats the problem with keeping it like that?

How can you brin g an extra pilot and keep it SOLO? Didyou even read the thread? This change changes NOTHIGN for larger groups combat. But it is massively detrimental to solo and pair pvp.

Nope. I am just disqualify YOUR ARGUMENT. Since as long as you post with a NPC corp character you can be very well someone that NEVER participated in ANY PVP, and have no clue on your statements (altough almost everythign else you post already support that). Youcould be just a carebear.


Want your arguments to be takesn seriously? Shyow your face. Show why we shoudl believe you know what you are saying.

We had several posts from groups very well known for small scale high level PVP, basically all against your opinion.

The character card is not because someone does not have more arguments. It is because we noticed that is futile to discuss with someone that have given us zero reasons to take him seriously.