Player Features and Ideas Discussion

1:
Reduce seige mode time to 5 min/half the consumption amount

2:
remove the scan resolution penalty from the siege mod

3:
add new role bonuses to dreads such as:
ability to use capital nos/nuets (since the mod is soo big its sig radius based on if it works or not... so is useless against non cap ships)
ability to use capital capacitor injector (uses 8000's)
add bonuses to the mods in siege mode

4: make it so RR works on dreads in siege mode but are still invul to ewar mods in seige mode (edit this is up for debate whether or not ewar should be able to be used against a dread in siege mode if its receiving rr too... personally i am ok either way)

5:
add one extra high slot to all dreads so they can fit a nuet or nos.

6:
Remove the -50% to tracking and -60% to explosion velocity and replace it with a -30% to tracking and -40% to explosion velocity built into the guns (this is in effect a titan nerf)

ok so this would be my new moros fittings:

rigs:
3 trimarks

lows:
3 faction mag stab
2 true sansha endergy adaptives
1 ex harner II
dcu II

mids without ewar:--------------------------------------------------mids with ewar:
capital cap injector-------------------------------------------------- capital cap injecot
faction sensor booster (locking script)-------------------------magnometric eccm II
faction sensor booster (locking script)-------------------------faction sensor booster (locking script)
faction tracking comp (optimal range script) -----------------faction tracking comp (optimal range script)
faction tracking comp (optimal range script) -----------------faction tracking comp (optimal range script)

highs:
3 ion using faction antimater
1 capital nuet
1 seige mod

drones:
5 sentry II

1. a 40% increase in HP? in order to make the Titan DD completely useless?
2. I completely agree
3. I agree with this one too, Im not sure why dreads need to take 30 seconds to lock another ship its size.
4. lol thats fine for the Moros because it cant augment the drone damage with damage mods, but you do realize that would give the revalation around 9900 DPS? almost as much as a nyx with 20 fighter bombers? uhhh ... no
5. why on earth would you need a webber for capital ships? are they not slow enough for you? whats next a capital target painter? Capital neuts might kinda be ok other than the fact that you have to change the game mechanic for them to work. Capital boosters . . . I dont know, I think neuts should be the subcapital weapon against cap ships, and the more capital ships are like non capital ships the worse.
6. I agree with the RR being allowed in siege mode, but allowing for EWAR on a ship that cant move or leave is just a bad game mechanic . . .
7. Dreadnoughts arent supposed to have utility, theyre supposed do one thing, and that one thing very well . . . giving them a utility high or capital utility mods is the opposite of that.

1. no, what I think is that if dreads are able to receive RR in siege and have +40% EHP they'll refit to stay out of DD range and let the tanking be done by the carriers repping them . . .
you do realize that even now there are fits for dreads that tank a DD. with a hardener of each type, 3 T1 trimark armor pumps, a damage control, and a damnation in local right now a revelation has 2.2 million EHP just in armor (40% more than that is 3.08 million btw, more than a DD can put out); thats not including a slave set, a titan in local or a faction fit, and still leaves 3 slots open for damage mods.

2. three navy heat sinks and a siege module with level 5 dreadnaught would give you a ROF of 3.251585 a damage mod of 111.40363 Non faction ammo is 96 damage per shot so . . .
96 * 111.40363 = 10694.74848 damage per volley per gun, divided by your ROF
10694.74848 / 3.251585 = 3298.08777 DPS per gun, times three guns
3289.08777 * 3 = 9867.26333 DPS just from guns, then there are drones on top of that.
Also your damage could not be killed like fighter bombers could be.

3. a nyx at 100% transversal only really starts to mitigate damage at < 5 km, not a huge problem especially when they can be bumped.

4. supercaps currently have one without the other . . . its fine, that isnt what makes them overpowered, and making them vulnerable to ECM would make them underpowered.

5. Utility slots are by definition not for anything . . . the extra slots on the dreads is not utility, it MUST be used for a siege module or the ship is useless.

Im totally with you on allowing RR,

and yeah the range is like 27 but without the need for cap rechargers in the mids (because you can receive remote assistance) you can fit tracking computers.

Yes to RR, yes to nerf capital guns tracking by default, so same is applied to titans

Make ewar work against the dread while in siege, but also ECCM and tracking links and remote sensor boosters and such...

DPS increase is not needed if all the other stuff is added as you can get a dread with blasters for an example do about 7000 dps already at up to (only up to 50-80km though, and alot less further out)

The only thing that would worry some people is dreads being used for defending 0.0 stations against hostiles :P while it's being remote tracking linked and boosted (I personly had a "instamoros" that could hit subcaps (battlecruisers and battleships) pritty well, but also lost it after 40-50 hacs landed at 0)

i say if you are going to have rr and since the dread can still dock (dont need a dedicated alt) plus the ship is cheep in comparison to a sc or titan i would support ewar being used against the ship.

+1 internets for this boost i really like it

well triage is already 5 min reduced from 10 min... and if you allow ewar againt dreads in siege mode then it would make sense removing the scan resolution reduction... but if you dont allow ewar then it should stay in...

care to elaborate on the no to capital nos/nuet? it would be sig radius based so useless against sub caps and it would really help break up those rr chains... (but really this is with allowing ewar against dreads in siege... its a whole theme thing... its like if you do allow things like capital nuets, rr, and increased locking time then having ewar against it makes sense and would not make dreads op)

in all if you allow rr to dreads in siege then too should carriers... but personally i still am leaning towards ewar being used... it goes both ways... you can use remote sensor boosters or tracking links or eccm to counter any ewar being used...

I disagree.

* A ship that can't move should get a bonus vs. ships that can move (supers).
* Citadel missiles are far worse than turrets at hitting anything moving, and there are no modules to improve that.

They don't need penalties at all. They need bonuses.