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Vadrin Hegirin
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2014-05-12 22:11:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Vadrin Hegirin
Hi, I am the IT guy for the J4LP alliance (http://j4lp.com)

We are currently using a version of pizza-auth made by Lucia Denniard (<3) but I am currently working on a new version using LDAP for services authentication and MongoDB for data storage.

NewAuth is already pretty advanced and provides the basic features for an alliance to run and manage its members.

Having SSO would be a wonderful help:


  • Easier barrier of entry for new members. No need to go generate an API Key.
  • Easier for allies to join.
  • Easier to allow temporary access to our comms.
  • Alt characters management.
  • Better API usage.


This will remove a lot of complexity on the User management part for sure, which is one of the goals of OAuth I think.

You can find the source of NewAuth on Github (https://github.com/J4LP/newauth) and its docs on (http://newauth.readthedocs.org/en/latest/).

It is in active development and tested by the members of my alliance, though I'm the only developer at the moment, I receive a lot of feedback from our IT group.
Myopic Thyne
Accounts Payable.
#22 - 2014-05-12 23:34:02 UTC
Indalecia wrote:
I'd like to apply Osmium.

Osmium is a browser-based fitting tool (and yes, you can use it from the IGB too!). One of the cool features is that you can share a loadout only to your corpmates, alliances mates, or even people in your contact list with a certain standing threshold.

Right now, for it to work users have to authenticate their account with an API key just to make sure they actually belong in the corporation/alliance they pretend to be in. And it's really not making for great user-friendliness, considering the API creation UI isn't terribly intuitive. SSO gets rid of the problem in a neat way.

About 30% of all accounts are API-verified at the moment. SSO could help increase that percentage a lot and thus convince more corporations or alliances to switch to it to manage their doctrines and loadouts in one easy and convenient place.

Depending on how much information the SSO sends you back (like something tied to the account, not the character), it would also make a decent anti-cheat system for votes (like people can't cheat and vote twice by using an alt, this kind of thing).

Osmium is a free and libre project, and I am its main developer. I've had two other people making the occasional commit here and there so far.



I'd just like to voice my support for Osmium getting access to the SSO, I've been watching the project carefully and really feel like it's something special that would benefit massively from an intelligent, active developer implementing an amazing feature like SSO.
Wollari
Dirt Nap Squad
#23 - 2014-05-12 23:36:35 UTC
DOTLAN EveMaps (http://evemaps.dotlan.net)

Logged in users have the ability to additional features like
* save notes on systems (and share them)
* bookmark routes, systems, etc
* with the use of api keys users can access the asset manager or overlay their alliance/corp/personal standings on the map
* subscribe to jump bridge networks and use them for route planning

I already support 3rd party auth/identities (like google, facebook, twitter, based on openid/oauth) to log into your account.

DOTLAN EveMaps | Your out-of-game map, navigation toolset, sov database, etc. since 2008

Marbin Drakon
Reboot Required
#24 - 2014-05-13 00:16:26 UTC

  • A link to your web site?

  • https://alpha.evewspace.com/ (This application is for the public alpha instance only)

  • What will SSO do for your sites users? For example beyond user management does your site have a commenting system?

  • SSO would eliminate the need for API keys for access control and allow for more fluid control of information between components of conglomerated WH entities. Once released fully, it would make securing Eve W-Space instances much easier for less experienced administrators as it would remove the need to store user credentials.

  • How many developers are working on your site

  • Eve W-Space is open source and has had 12 contributors although I am the only "full-time" developer.

Eve W-Space: Open source wormhole mapping and corporation management: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=210073

Zlorthishen
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry.
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#25 - 2014-05-13 02:57:59 UTC
I am interested in this.
Arnath Othorem
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#26 - 2014-05-13 04:51:02 UTC
Indalecia wrote:
I'd like to apply Osmium.

[...]

Osmium is a free and libre project, and I am its main developer. I've had two other people making the occasional commit here and there so far.


I'd like to chime in with my support as one of the "occasional commit here and there" people. I would be thrilled to see SSO come to Osmium, and I'm happy to throw some additional effort behind this. By day, I work on APIs to support third-party developers at a software company (not gaming), so I'm familiar with how valuable beta developers are for getting feedback on APIs and docs... I'd love to be part of this process for EVE :)
Peter Powers
FinFleet
Northern Coalition.
#27 - 2014-05-13 07:45:33 UTC
A link to your web site?
a) http://3rdpartyeve.net (sso will be used through https://secure.3rdpartyeve.net, which still has to be setup)
b) https://comments.3rdpartyeve.net (still in the works)

What will SSO do for your sites users? For example beyond user management does your site have a commenting system?
a) it will finally allow 3rd party devs to login and manage their 3rd party apps, so they can edit it - a feature that i'm waiting for quite a while to release.
b) basically https://comments.3rdpartyeve.net is supposed to be a commenting system that can be used by 3rd party eve websites to allow for users to comment with their eve characters - very much like disqus and a few others, just with verified eve characters instead.

How many developers are working on your site
a & b) me myself and i

3rdPartyEve.net - your catalogue for 3rd party applications

Peter Powers
FinFleet
Northern Coalition.
#28 - 2014-05-13 07:51:56 UTC
Two step wrote:
I'm interested, but most of my uses would be private. How about if I work on a plugin for the eve-kb killboard to use SSO to authenticate comments?

i'm already working on a commenting system that will be as easy to integrate as simply putting in some javascript tag - very much like disqus and others. The advantage is that theres only one application that needs to integrate the SSO, over a plugin approach where each running site would have to register with the SSO program.

3rdPartyEve.net - your catalogue for 3rd party applications

Skutter Midumulf
Proioxis Assault Force
Rogue Caldari Union
#29 - 2014-05-13 08:48:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Skutter Midumulf
Very excited to see this!
Evanova Android
Traquenard Labs
The Ancients.
#30 - 2014-05-13 22:12:22 UTC
While I am not a web site, I am willing and able to tackle this from a mobile point of view and contribute in integration with at least Android and add SSO to my public Java Eve API.

Count me in!

Evanova - The Android App for Eve Online

Ferria
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#31 - 2014-05-14 00:24:55 UTC
I'm gonna throw in for this even though I'm not sure I qualify, as always :)

A link to your web site?

www.dust514stats.com

What will SSO do for your sites users? For example beyond user management does your site have a commenting system?

it depends on what we can do beyond just authenticating users to accounts. it would allow my site to be more secure as I do not need to hold password or security data, thus letting people feel a bi more confident in use of the site. If using having an Authenticated call would allow me access to more crest end point there are many new features I can provide in relation to stats, if SSO will even work for dust accounts.

How many developers are working on your site

Me, just me. :(
Gordon Newman
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#32 - 2014-05-14 11:04:55 UTC
A link to your web site?

https://element-43.com We're a completely open, neutral open source project.


What will SSO do for your sites users? For example beyond user management does your site have a commenting system?

SSO would greatly simplify the whole registration/activation/password recovery process for our ~600 users. We could also verify corporation/alliance membership which would enable us to finally add some proper management tools for corps and alliances. On top of that SSO would nicely integrate into our existing REST API allowing us to create private read/write API endpoints providing access to aggregated personal market data (watchlist, shopping list...), industry project status reports, notifications...


How many developers are working on your site

Currently I am maintaining the project on my own, which is a little sad - there are 2-3 more or less active developers who have contributed code in the past.

I'd really love to have more devs working on the project again. It's a shame that I have to dedicate most of the time I'm spending on element43 to maintenance work like managing the servers, updating the SDE and static assets or optimizing backend code - that's stuff most users won't notice. Since large parts of the boilerplate code required for an universal 3rd party EVE web application (market data consumer, full SDE import scripts and their ORM models, fronted layout, basic REST API, registration/authentication, API key management, lots of market data views, asynchronous EVE API import and error handling code etc.) have already been written, the whole thing is just waiting for someone to add features to it. So if you're reading this and you are a developer, please consider contributing to element43. I have written a tutorial and automated setup script for a dev environment for you.

We offer secure hosting, documentation, probably the largest EVE market data database in the world and a solid codebase which allows you to add new features very fast. I don't really know what else one could offer as an open 3rd party EVE tool today.

Sorry for that rant - it just saddens me that progress has been so slow in the past year, even though it would be so simple to add a wealth of features for our users if we just had 2-3 more active devs.

Co-Founder of element43 - Join our team! | EVE Live | EMDRMon | accounts-eve

Black Madness
Natural Born Builders
New Eden Gambling Alliance
#33 - 2014-05-14 15:50:19 UTC
www.eve-gamblers.org

Plus some private projects I am currently working on, but yeah, that EG will be the first platform to try SSO.

/me crosses fingers

Oh and i am the only developer at the moment.
Ogir Tenno
Marvel-Yukon
#34 - 2014-05-19 16:32:42 UTC
www.my-eve.com


Using it for login. Login allows commenting, changing personal or character Settings. Features that rely more on character/corporation Data are currently being developed.


www.eve-ads.com
Using it for login. Login allows corporation/alliances the creation of adverts that are displayed for relevant search queries on my-eve.com

Only 1 developer, not going to change anytime soon.
Valkador
Pron Actor's Guild
#35 - 2014-05-21 11:55:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Valkador
Hey CPP Foxfour


I would be interested in helping out, I do not have a website, but I am a web developer, and I work with the microsoft development stack, and have created web applications that use the new aspnet identity 2.0, with single sign on using OAuth (and other technologies), WebApi and bearer token validation for web based action verification, along with signalr for live server side push messaging integrated with biometric verification. Basically I can do SSO from anywhere, and even if permitted send notification of skill completion to connected clients be they a web client or a phone. I anyone wants help with this If am available to help out.

Valkador
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#36 - 2014-05-21 19:50:48 UTC
Ogir Tenno wrote:
www.my-eve.com


Using it for login. Login allows commenting, changing personal or character Settings. Features that rely more on character/corporation Data are currently being developed.


www.eve-ads.com
Using it for login. Login allows corporation/alliances the creation of adverts that are displayed for relevant search queries on my-eve.com

Only 1 developer, not going to change anytime soon.


I used to own eve-ads.com :)

Wrote an advertising site that never got released. Good to see someone else took it further than I did.

Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together -  Fleet-Up.com

CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#37 - 2014-05-22 14:31:51 UTC
Signups are now closed. Those chosen will receive an EVE mail soon (writing it now) and a dev blog following that at some time.

@CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Tech Co

Third-party developer? Check out the official developers site for dev blogs, resources, and more.

xp3ll3d
The Southern Legion
#38 - 2014-06-03 13:28:38 UTC  |  Edited by: xp3ll3d
I didn't post in this thread initially because it stated it was only for EVE SSO.
However I'm going to echo Ferria's request and ask for SSO support for Dust, and offer my site for when it is availab.e

Site: http://dusttimers.com/
Why I want SSO: It would allow me to authenticate a user as belonging to a corp. I'd then be able to open up editing of corp timers such as

  • descriptions, allowing people to flag if it is an attack, training op, etc.
  • Link timers from one corp to another. Members could log in, indicate that they are a ringers for a battle, and the timer would then be listed when corp members check.

Number of developers: Just myself
Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
G0N3 F1SS10N
#39 - 2014-07-03 22:11:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Petrified
This look like it will be good overall. Thanks

Cloaking is the closest thing to a "Pause Game" button one can get while in space.

Support better localization for the Japanese Community.

CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#40 - 2014-08-15 18:23:55 UTC
Hey guys,

The SSO trial so far is going amazingly well. We are however taking a bit longer to get ready for the next step, opening up for anyone to register freely.

Due to that taking longer we would like to continue accepting more people into the limited trial. If you would like to be considered, and we reserve the right to pick and choose who we want, please consider the following requirements and then apply in this thread.


  • You must be using this for a web application. Downloadable applications will have to wait until we open it up.
  • Your web site must be open to the public and not charge or restrict access in anyway.
  • No gambling web sites.
  • We also consider people who are looking to make open source plugins, like someone who is creating a plugin for EDK.


If you are wondering whats required in implementing the SSO check out the documentation here: https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/EVE_SSO_Documentation

I am out for the weekend now. Be sure to keep an eye on your EVE mail to see if we contact you. :)

Fly safe guys... or not... I prefer the not part. :P

@CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Tech Co

Third-party developer? Check out the official developers site for dev blogs, resources, and more.

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