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Will you need Ice Processing 5 post Kronos to refine ice in High Sec?

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Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-05-19 09:35:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Anonymous Forumposter
Will you need Ice Processing 5 post Kronos to get perfect Ice Refines in High Sec stations?
Dreadchain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-05-19 09:41:51 UTC
No.

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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2014-05-19 09:43:21 UTC
Dreadchain wrote:
No.


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The answer is yes, if you want to refine at max efficiency.

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Dreadchain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-05-19 09:47:13 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
Dreadchain wrote:
No.


Roll

The answer is yes, if you want to refine at max efficiency.


But that wasn't the question now was it?

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Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-05-19 10:05:59 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
Dreadchain wrote:
No.


Roll

The answer is yes, if you want to refine at max efficiency.


Currently I don't need the skill at all to get perfect refine in High sec, That's why i'm asking.
Solace Project
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2014-05-19 10:32:11 UTC
Anonymous Forumposter wrote:
TigerXtrm wrote:
Dreadchain wrote:
No.


Roll

The answer is yes, if you want to refine at max efficiency.


Currently I don't need the skill at all to get perfect refine in High sec, That's why i'm asking.

That's not what you asked for.
Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#7 - 2014-05-19 11:05:29 UTC
The answer is in the blogs, and you need the max beancounter implant to refine at 100%, full skills wont be enuff

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ExookiZ
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#8 - 2014-05-19 11:54:36 UTC
you wont get perfect refine in highsec at all. regardless of skills or implants.

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Jinrai Tremaine
Cheese It Inc
#9 - 2014-05-19 12:37:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Jinrai Tremaine
It will not be possible to get perfect refines anywhere after the Crius patch (the refining changes have been moved out of Kronos to the next major patch, scheduled for deployment on... 22nd July I think?).

That being said, CCP are buffing the raw mineral content of all ores and ices also as part of Crius, so it will be possible to get the same amount of minerals/ice products from refining as you currently do with a perfect refine, even in hisec. To get this, you will need Refining 5, Refinery Efficiency 5 and the relevant ore processing skill at 5 and a Zainou 'Beancounter' Refining RX-804 implant. With all of those together, you will get the same amount per m3 refined in a hisec station as you do from a current perfect refine.

Note that it is going to be possible to improve on that, however - Crius' changes will give hisec stations a base of 50% refining efficiency, but it will also change the efficiencies on POS refining arrays, with one anchorable anywhere (including hisec) with a base of 52% and another anchorable outside hisec with a base of 54%. Player-built Outpost stations in Nullsec will have the 50% base the same as hisec, but their refining can be upgraded; for Minmatar stations this allows a maximum of 60% base efficiency, while other stations will have a maximum of 57%. All of these refineries will benefit from skills and implants to improve those base amounts.

TL;DR: Yes, you will need [Whatever processing] skill to 5 after Crius.
Yongtau Naskingar
Yongtau Naskingar Corporation
#10 - 2014-05-19 12:40:35 UTC
No, you don't. Because the industry changes have been pushed back to Crius, so post-Kronos you can do with your current skills.

Post-Crius however, you need Ice reprocessing V, the implant and the standing to get to where were before.
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A character that has perfect skills/standings who reprocesses at a 50% station with all skills maxed but without the 4% implant will have 2.8% less reprocessed minerals than currently. Again, that is an intended behavior, as we want players to invest in reprocessing to get the most out of it.

From the devblog: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/reprocess-all-the-things
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
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ISD Alliance
#11 - 2014-05-20 18:42:35 UTC
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Cluelix
Wrecktical Supremacy.
#12 - 2014-06-18 11:30:39 UTC
So what is current formula now, after Kronos?

I get: 92.4%

I am refining at a station with, Base Yield: 50%

My skills are:

Refining: 5
Refinery Efficiency: 3
Ice Harvesting: 3

No implants. But I would like to know the formula so I know which one to start with and if implant is worth the trouble and price.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#13 - 2014-06-18 15:53:18 UTC
because I feel like being snarky...

I can't tell ya, I;ve had ice mining processing at 5 for... mmm... 8 years now?

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Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-06-18 16:18:41 UTC
Anonymous Forumposter wrote:
Will you need Ice Processing 5 post Kronos to get perfect Ice Refines in High Sec stations?


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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#15 - 2014-06-18 20:15:25 UTC
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#16 - 2014-06-18 21:01:55 UTC
Your question is: what skills/implants will be required for the most competitive Ice refine at place X? You'll need to read the feedback thread in order to look at pilot answers to that question. But then, it won't matter because CCP will change it 3 times before they release, and then it will be broken. Best to wait until the patch following the patch following the patch before taking a chance on getting a solid answer
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-06-19 00:15:11 UTC
Contract me your ice, I will refine it at max efficiency. Pirate

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