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Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2014-05-07 17:18:23 UTC
I fail to see what unique role this new ship would fill.
memnon sinluf
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2014-05-07 17:20:35 UTC
Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:
I fail to see what unique role this new ship would fill.


its the bs ver of what a Gnosis would be

no role is intended its kinda the point not to have one
Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2014-05-07 19:21:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Antillie Sa'Kan
Except that that role is already filled by the Gnosis. So, what unique role would it fill?

I would also argue that the role of the Gnosis is to be new player friendly and to let new players experiment with different weapon systems and combat styles. A battleship is by definition not new player friendly. So the idea of a battleship version of the Gnosis is inherently flawed.
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#24 - 2014-05-07 20:07:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Owen Levanth
memnon sinluf wrote:
EDITED NO LONGER T3
As of Replie #15

NE - Punisher " New Eden Punisher "
All Faction Battleship
Shield - 8000 R= 25/25/25/25
Armour - 8000 R= 30/30/30/30
Hull - 8000 R=0/0/0/0
Rig Slots [][][]
Calibration 400
PG = 19500
CPU = 700
Turret hardpoints 3
Missile Hard Points 3
Slots
High 6
Medium 6
Low 6
speed 200ms
cap 4000 / 24/s
targeting 70km
scan 100
sensor 22
max targeting 5

1 All Race Bonus = + 7.5% to Rate of Fire / Tracking of Large Turrets per
Level of Minmitar Battleship
2 All Race Bonus = + 10% to Drone Damage / Durability per
Level of Galente Battleship
3 All Race Bonus = + 5% to Rate of Fire & Damage of Cruise & Torpedo Launchers per
Level of Caldari Battleship
4 All Race bonus = + 5% to Optimal Range & Damage of Large Turrets per
Level of Amarr Battleship

Feel Free to post comments on Tweeks that would help , the goal is to make this a real ship



No, sorry but no. First off, this is all far too unbalanced. Second, we already have a ship called "Punisher". But I'll help you out.

Here my balanced correction of your ship:

NE - Puncher "**** Puncher "
Drone Faction Battleship
Shield - 12000 R= 25/50/50/50
Armour - 10000 R= 40/20/20/40
Hull - 8000 R=10/10/10/10
Rig Slots [][][]
Calibration 350
PG = 29500
CPU = 999
Turret hardpoints 6
Missile Hard Points 6
Slots
High 8
Medium 8
Low 8
speed 400ms
cap 14000 / 240/s
targeting 170km
scan 200
sensor 42
max targeting 9
Bandwidth 250mb/sec
Dronebay 250 m³

Cargobay 2020 m³

Role bonus:

-99% CPU usage of covert-ops cloak
-can fit covert-ops cloak

Normal bonus:
+100% missile damage (all missiles) per level in Caldari battleships
+100% large laser damage per level in Amarr battleships
+100% drone damage and hitpoints per level in Gallente battleships
+100% large projectile damage per level in Minmatar battleships

-50% signature per level in Rogue Drone Super Secret Battleships (new skill, needs level 5 in all battleship-skills)

Now everything is balanced and I added all the things you forgot. You can now thank me. Smile

Edit:

Silly me, I forgot the new Geckos are 50m³ and 50mb/sec. I rebalanced your ship to allow a full flight of Geckos.
Cassandra Aurilien
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2014-05-07 20:38:43 UTC
What you want is a Typhoon Fleet Issue. I can't be bothered to work out the numbers, but that is basically what your current spec's work out to. (Though I didn't see anything about the Drone bandwidth on your stats.) Well, with the exception of being faster than a Mach, and having Gnosis resists.

Buy one, they're nice.
memnon sinluf
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2014-05-08 02:44:40 UTC
Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:
Except that that role is already filled by the Gnosis. So, what unique role would it fill?

I would also argue that the role of the Gnosis is to be new player friendly and to let new players experiment with different weapon systems and combat styles. A battleship is by definition not new player friendly. So the idea of a battleship version of the Gnosis is inherently flawed.


only if this game continues to go on such a linear mind set
memnon sinluf
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2014-05-08 02:46:49 UTC
Owen Levanth wrote:
memnon sinluf wrote:
EDITED NO LONGER T3
As of Replie #15

NE - Punisher " New Eden Punisher "
All Faction Battleship
Shield - 8000 R= 25/25/25/25
Armour - 8000 R= 30/30/30/30
Hull - 8000 R=0/0/0/0
Rig Slots [][][]
Calibration 400
PG = 19500
CPU = 700
Turret hardpoints 3
Missile Hard Points 3
Slots
High 6
Medium 6
Low 6
speed 200ms
cap 4000 / 24/s
targeting 70km
scan 100
sensor 22
max targeting 5

1 All Race Bonus = + 7.5% to Rate of Fire / Tracking of Large Turrets per
Level of Minmitar Battleship
2 All Race Bonus = + 10% to Drone Damage / Durability per
Level of Galente Battleship
3 All Race Bonus = + 5% to Rate of Fire & Damage of Cruise & Torpedo Launchers per
Level of Caldari Battleship
4 All Race bonus = + 5% to Optimal Range & Damage of Large Turrets per
Level of Amarr Battleship

Feel Free to post comments on Tweeks that would help , the goal is to make this a real ship



No, sorry but no. First off, this is all far too unbalanced. Second, we already have a ship called "Punisher". But I'll help you out.

Here my balanced correction of your ship:

NE - Puncher "**** Puncher "
Drone Faction Battleship
Shield - 12000 R= 25/50/50/50
Armour - 10000 R= 40/20/20/40
Hull - 8000 R=10/10/10/10
Rig Slots [][][]
Calibration 350
PG = 29500
CPU = 999
Turret hardpoints 6
Missile Hard Points 6
Slots
High 8
Medium 8
Low 8
speed 400ms
cap 14000 / 240/s
targeting 170km
scan 200
sensor 42
max targeting 9
Bandwidth 250mb/sec
Dronebay 250 m³

Cargobay 2020 m³

Role bonus:

-99% CPU usage of covert-ops cloak
-can fit covert-ops cloak

Normal bonus:
+100% missile damage (all missiles) per level in Caldari battleships
+100% large laser damage per level in Amarr battleships
+100% drone damage and hitpoints per level in Gallente battleships
+100% large projectile damage per level in Minmatar battleships

-50% signature per level in Rogue Drone Super Secret Battleships (new skill, needs level 5 in all battleship-skills)

Now everything is balanced and I added all the things you forgot. You can now thank me. Smile

Edit:

Silly me, I forgot the new Geckos are 50m³ and 50mb/sec. I rebalanced your ship to allow a full flight of Geckos.


and they claled mine op >.> man your wasting posting space , scroll up i was already told this idea was op , i downgraded it so it wouldn't be
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#28 - 2014-05-08 12:24:41 UTC
memnon sinluf wrote:
Owen Levanth wrote:
memnon sinluf wrote:
EDITED NO LONGER T3
As of Replie #15

NE - Punisher " New Eden Punisher "
All Faction Battleship
Shield - 8000 R= 25/25/25/25
Armour - 8000 R= 30/30/30/30
Hull - 8000 R=0/0/0/0
Rig Slots [][][]
Calibration 400
PG = 19500
CPU = 700
Turret hardpoints 3
Missile Hard Points 3
Slots
High 6
Medium 6
Low 6
speed 200ms
cap 4000 / 24/s
targeting 70km
scan 100
sensor 22
max targeting 5

1 All Race Bonus = + 7.5% to Rate of Fire / Tracking of Large Turrets per
Level of Minmitar Battleship
2 All Race Bonus = + 10% to Drone Damage / Durability per
Level of Galente Battleship
3 All Race Bonus = + 5% to Rate of Fire & Damage of Cruise & Torpedo Launchers per
Level of Caldari Battleship
4 All Race bonus = + 5% to Optimal Range & Damage of Large Turrets per
Level of Amarr Battleship

Feel Free to post comments on Tweeks that would help , the goal is to make this a real ship



No, sorry but no. First off, this is all far too unbalanced. Second, we already have a ship called "Punisher". But I'll help you out.

Here my balanced correction of your ship:

NE - Puncher "**** Puncher "
Drone Faction Battleship
Shield - 12000 R= 25/50/50/50
Armour - 10000 R= 40/20/20/40
Hull - 8000 R=10/10/10/10
Rig Slots [][][]
Calibration 350
PG = 29500
CPU = 999
Turret hardpoints 6
Missile Hard Points 6
Slots
High 8
Medium 8
Low 8
speed 400ms
cap 14000 / 240/s
targeting 170km
scan 200
sensor 42
max targeting 9
Bandwidth 250mb/sec
Dronebay 250 m³

Cargobay 2020 m³

Role bonus:

-99% CPU usage of covert-ops cloak
-can fit covert-ops cloak

Normal bonus:
+100% missile damage (all missiles) per level in Caldari battleships
+100% large laser damage per level in Amarr battleships
+100% drone damage and hitpoints per level in Gallente battleships
+100% large projectile damage per level in Minmatar battleships

-50% signature per level in Rogue Drone Super Secret Battleships (new skill, needs level 5 in all battleship-skills)

Now everything is balanced and I added all the things you forgot. You can now thank me. Smile

Edit:

Silly me, I forgot the new Geckos are 50m³ and 50mb/sec. I rebalanced your ship to allow a full flight of Geckos.


and they claled mine op >.> man your wasting posting space , scroll up i was already told this idea was op , i downgraded it so it wouldn't be


Ah, you're right. So I downgraded it a bit:

NE - Puncher "D. I. C. K. Puncher "
Drone Faction Battleship
Shield - 12000 R= 50/50/50/50
Armour - 10000 R= 40/40/20/40
Hull - 8000 R=10/10/10/10
Rig Slots [][][]
Calibration 350
PG = 29500
CPU = 999
Turret hardpoints 6
Missile Hard Points 6
Slots
High 8
Medium 8
Low 8
speed 399ms
cap 14000 / 240/s
targeting 170km
scan 200
sensor 42
max targeting 9
Bandwidth 250mb/sec
Dronebay 250 m³

Cargobay 2010 m³

Role bonus:

-98% CPU usage of covert-ops cloak
-can fit covert-ops cloak

Normal bonus:
+200% missile damage (all missiles) per level in Caldari battleships
+200% large laser damage per level in Amarr battleships
+200% drone damage and hitpoints per level in Gallente battleships
+200% large projectile damage per level in Minmatar battleships

-50% signature per level in Rogue Drone Super Secret Battleships (new skill, needs level 5 in all battleship-skills)

Now it's balanced! Pirate
monkfish2345
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#29 - 2014-05-08 12:28:51 UTC
Owen Levanth wrote:
memnon sinluf wrote:
Owen Levanth wrote:
memnon sinluf wrote:
EDITED NO LONGER T3
As of Replie #15

NE - Punisher " New Eden Punisher "
All Faction Battleship
Shield - 8000 R= 25/25/25/25
Armour - 8000 R= 30/30/30/30
Hull - 8000 R=0/0/0/0
Rig Slots [][][]
Calibration 400
PG = 19500
CPU = 700
Turret hardpoints 3
Missile Hard Points 3
Slots
High 6
Medium 6
Low 6
speed 200ms
cap 4000 / 24/s
targeting 70km
scan 100
sensor 22
max targeting 5

1 All Race Bonus = + 7.5% to Rate of Fire / Tracking of Large Turrets per
Level of Minmitar Battleship
2 All Race Bonus = + 10% to Drone Damage / Durability per
Level of Galente Battleship
3 All Race Bonus = + 5% to Rate of Fire & Damage of Cruise & Torpedo Launchers per
Level of Caldari Battleship
4 All Race bonus = + 5% to Optimal Range & Damage of Large Turrets per
Level of Amarr Battleship

Feel Free to post comments on Tweeks that would help , the goal is to make this a real ship



No, sorry but no. First off, this is all far too unbalanced. Second, we already have a ship called "Punisher". But I'll help you out.

Here my balanced correction of your ship:

NE - Puncher "**** Puncher "
Drone Faction Battleship
Shield - 12000 R= 25/50/50/50
Armour - 10000 R= 40/20/20/40
Hull - 8000 R=10/10/10/10
Rig Slots [][][]
Calibration 350
PG = 29500
CPU = 999
Turret hardpoints 6
Missile Hard Points 6
Slots
High 8
Medium 8
Low 8
speed 400ms
cap 14000 / 240/s
targeting 170km
scan 200
sensor 42
max targeting 9
Bandwidth 250mb/sec
Dronebay 250 m³

Cargobay 2020 m³

Role bonus:

-99% CPU usage of covert-ops cloak
-can fit covert-ops cloak

Normal bonus:
+100% missile damage (all missiles) per level in Caldari battleships
+100% large laser damage per level in Amarr battleships
+100% drone damage and hitpoints per level in Gallente battleships
+100% large projectile damage per level in Minmatar battleships

-50% signature per level in Rogue Drone Super Secret Battleships (new skill, needs level 5 in all battleship-skills)

Now everything is balanced and I added all the things you forgot. You can now thank me. Smile

Edit:

Silly me, I forgot the new Geckos are 50m³ and 50mb/sec. I rebalanced your ship to allow a full flight of Geckos.


and they claled mine op >.> man your wasting posting space , scroll up i was already told this idea was op , i downgraded it so it wouldn't be


Ah, you're right. So I downgraded it a bit:

NE - Puncher "D. I. C. K. Puncher "
Drone Faction Battleship
Shield - 12000 R= 50/50/50/50
Armour - 10000 R= 40/40/20/40
Hull - 8000 R=10/10/10/10
Rig Slots [][][]
Calibration 350
PG = 29500
CPU = 999
Turret hardpoints 6
Missile Hard Points 6
Slots
High 8
Medium 8
Low 8
speed 399ms
cap 14000 / 240/s
targeting 170km
scan 200
sensor 42
max targeting 9
Bandwidth 250mb/sec
Dronebay 250 m³

Cargobay 2010 m³

Role bonus:

-98% CPU usage of covert-ops cloak
-can fit covert-ops cloak

Normal bonus:
+200% missile damage (all missiles) per level in Caldari battleships
+200% large laser damage per level in Amarr battleships
+200% drone damage and hitpoints per level in Gallente battleships
+200% large projectile damage per level in Minmatar battleships

-50% signature per level in Rogue Drone Super Secret Battleships (new skill, needs level 5 in all battleship-skills)

Now it's balanced! Pirate



i feel like your not taking this idea seriously anymore...

can't put my finger on why though :s
memnon sinluf
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2014-05-08 17:50:22 UTC
im closing this thread and restarting it with the current idea , so yeah , becuase now its cludered by trolls
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