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The Sentinel; Why is it so broken?
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Phaade
Know-Nothings
Snuffed Out
#1 - 2014-05-07 22:56:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Phaade
Can someone from CCP coherently explain why this ship exists in it's current form? It is utterly and completely broken.

Please, for the sake of your game, and playing a game that is not ridiculously unbalanced, change the Sentinel.

There is quite literally no justification for this ship's capabilities.



EDIT: The blatant unbalance is apparent:

31.5km neut range, neutralizing 18cap / sec, or 108 per cycle per neut 324 with one volley, which caps out 50% of the frigate class. The second cycle 6 seconds later and you are now dead in the water. Coupled with a 60% tracking disruption to either optimal and falloff or tracking means the drones are unkillable with anything but missiles, as is the ship (light missiles only). These packaged in the frigate class is absurd.

So, quite literally, the only viable option is light missiles, capless guns won't have the range to hit Sentinel. This is the epitome of unbalance in Eve.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#2 - 2014-05-07 23:04:44 UTC
could u elaborate?

u dnt even say whats wrong with it or what changes it could do with.

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Malcolm Malicious
Suddenly a Covert Cyno
The Initiative.
#3 - 2014-05-07 23:16:48 UTC
Kill the drones first and use missiles and gg.
Angrod Losshelin
modro
The Initiative.
#4 - 2014-05-07 23:34:40 UTC
Or use webs and a scram and brawl it down. It has abysmal tank and once it is going under 100m/s it doesnt matter how bad it tracking disrupts you you will still kill him.

Also, any drone frig will kill a sentinel easier than a missile boat, though those work just fine as well.

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Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#5 - 2014-05-07 23:36:13 UTC
so use missiles? and/or drones?

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Ele Rebellion
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-05-07 23:44:45 UTC
wow. I literally just watched a fight in Sortet about 15mins ago. Now I log in and see this lol.

Marmite Collective guy in Sentinel vs a Brave Newbies guy in a Myrmidon..

Myrmidon was trying to use Hammerhead IIs. Needless to say the Sentinel won.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#7 - 2014-05-07 23:47:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaarous Aldurald
It's balanced by the fact that it only has a handful of unbonused drones for dps if it's fit like that.

Kill the drones.

Duh.

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Sigras
Conglomo
#8 - 2014-05-08 00:13:13 UTC
So you're saying it is will be blown away by 3/8 of the assault frigates, 1/2 of the destroyers, and 4/7 of the pirate frigates?

Oh no! this ship is super effective against 50% of the T2 and faction frigates...
Liam Inkuras
Furnace
#9 - 2014-05-08 00:32:14 UTC
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Linkxsc162534
Apollo United Systems
#10 - 2014-05-08 01:54:32 UTC
Sigras wrote:
So you're saying it is will be blown away by 3/8 of the assault frigates, 1/2 of the destroyers, and 4/7 of the pirate frigates?

Oh no! this ship is super effective against 50% of the T2 and faction frigates...


Annnnnnnddddddd it gets roflstomped by the other half. Noone said that your ship was going to be amazing against everything.
And srsly, player skill comes into a lot of effect, you talk about nothing will have the range... the sents gotta get close to disrupt/scram you. Light missiles will eat it, drones will eat it, artys will eat it, and its not even that quick.
Also, since odds are the sent is gonna have a firend, u were probably gonna die anyways, you shoudl probably bring some friends yourself next time.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-05-08 03:36:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Nariya Kentaya
Angrod Losshelin wrote:
Or use webs and a scram and brawl it down. It has abysmal tank and once it is going under 100m/s it doesnt matter how bad it tracking disrupts you you will still kill him.

Also, any drone frig will kill a sentinel easier than a missile boat, though those work just fine as well.

dedicated Sentinel pilot reporting in.

Confirming that the second i see drones or missiles I am crying for my gang to get their goddamn asses into warp and save me XD

Actually, it was a Templis CALSF guy, i believe, that i lost my last Sentinel to on this character, have to check.
Ines Tegator
Serious Business Inc. Ltd. LLC. etc.
#12 - 2014-05-08 04:12:55 UTC
Remember this post the next time someone says TD's should affect missiles.

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Richard Lohengrin
Citadel Space Exploration Agency
#13 - 2014-05-08 06:54:04 UTC
Use the passive and vampiric Dragoon or fat Algos, Luke!

3 light drones vs. 5 light drones + bonus. You WIN!

Tristan/Ishkur is fine too.Lol