Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Has anyone thought about how they're going to transfer their stuff between arrays? I don't really want to be going to the POS all the time to move a newly copied set of BPCs to their relevant manufacturing arrays all the time. Previously it didn't matter where the BPOs/BPCs were but now they have to be with the slot location, so I can see this being a big ballache if there's no way to remotely transfer stuff between arrays at the starbase.

It seems to be undecided yet.

I am a t2 manufacturer for few months. I have pos and recently extended my production amount and enlarged my pos facilities. I was worried after the announcement. I was very scared of extra costs, I thought having pos was a luxury.

After I read many suggestions, spending some time reading the forum threads on changes, I wanted to make my own calculation


lets say material cost of items is "b"
lets say installing cost of job is "a"
installing cost "a" will be a function of "b". the only difference is tax of station
pos have %2 material efficiency bonus, so "b" becomes b*0.98 for pos

total cost of producing items in station =b + 1.1 x a
total cost of producing the item in pos = b x 0.98 + a

"b" being a function of "a" lets assume a coefficient "c"
b=a x c

station= b+1.1xbxc= b x (1+1.1 x c)
pos= b x 0.98 +b x c = b x (0.98 +c)

"c" is variable depending on the system and the amount of people actually using production services in system but it is same for starbase and station.

lets give "c" a value changing from %1 to %10 of the cost (this is extreme)

the ration between station and pos costs= (1 +1.1 x c) / (0.98 + c)

The ratio difference between pos and station production is not depended on item cost of production

if c is between %1 and %10
differences are always

"c" coefficient ratio station/pos
0.01 1.021212121
0.02 1.022
0.03 1.022772277
0.04 1.023529412
0.05 1.024271845
0.06 1.025
0.07 1.025714286
0.08 1.026415094
0.09 1.027102804
0.1 1.027777778

with theese rations we need to produce about 6b worth of stuff in a month to rationalize fuel costs.

6b x 0.022 = 136.6m (small caldari pos fuel cost atm)

This bonus is very small for all the work pos requires.However the speed bonus of pos is not included in these calculation. In ideal conditions a pos can produce %33 more items than a station so it will be reasonable to have one, but using a pos with full potential is full time job.

There is starbase bonus mentioned in the related devblog. We did not hear from it since. It would be a good idea to implement it with summer tweaks.

I don't understand why I would want to use a POS after these changes. And where is the lowsec bonus? Perhaps this needs to stay in the oven for just a little longer.

Plus time bonus for assembly arrays that stays the same and no NPC tax for job installation.

i also for one wants a stronger bonus as right now there is no reason to choose the adv mobile lab over mobile lab!

I liked the original 5% plan better, but I would rather have the 2% than no bonus
Besides 2% is a nice round consistent number

CCP Greyscale is working on that.

I can talk with Fozzie regarding CPU requirements on missile batteries when he's around.

No sorry, we like the individual capabilities of each - having them overlap would obsolete the smaller ones as soon as you have enough Starbase fittings.