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Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
#461 - 2014-05-06 05:07:16 UTC
On another tab i'm reading about some awful things happening to people in Syria.
Then i click back to here and refresh, as posts arrive.
The contrast is simply incredible.


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KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#462 - 2014-05-06 05:25:43 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
Nyphur wrote:
How hard is it to scratch anodized aluminium?


snip

While there probably IS something out there that could resist both the salt-water splashing of a high tide in bad weather AND the clothing of people closely inspecting the monument (or of idiots who think their internet spaceships vendetta is worth vandalising a public monument for), I doubt that substance is inexpensive.


The substance is called glass
Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters
Rote Kapelle
#463 - 2014-05-06 05:28:21 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Octoven wrote:


What defines a MEANINGFUL landmark is relative to how the person feels about it. For example, I may not give two ***** about the Statue of Liberty, but some one else may see it in a more personally meaningful way. It isn't my place or anyone else to say otherwise. We all take different landmarks and monuments differently than others.

Yes it is a crime, but to the people who this monument commemorates its is indeed an insult to their accomplishments. As said, it isn't for you to define if this is indeed meaningful or not, and if it really bothers you that much that others do, then the solution seems quite simple...ignore it.



Can you imagine if someone really did serious damage to it? Not just scratched it, blew it sky high. I can see the headlines:

'Eve Monument Ganked, Greifer tells CCP/Judge 'HTFU'.'


It's the monument's own fault for not flying aligned, or did not fit a tank.



The inability of some people to differentiate between spaceship pixels in an online video game and a public monument in real life continues to astound.

"EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for." -CCP Wrangler
Shurgin Ambraelle
Vagrants Against Gankers In Null Alliances
#464 - 2014-05-06 05:33:01 UTC
Galen Darksmith wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Octoven wrote:


What defines a MEANINGFUL landmark is relative to how the person feels about it. For example, I may not give two ***** about the Statue of Liberty, but some one else may see it in a more personally meaningful way. It isn't my place or anyone else to say otherwise. We all take different landmarks and monuments differently than others.

Yes it is a crime, but to the people who this monument commemorates its is indeed an insult to their accomplishments. As said, it isn't for you to define if this is indeed meaningful or not, and if it really bothers you that much that others do, then the solution seems quite simple...ignore it.



Can you imagine if someone really did serious damage to it? Not just scratched it, blew it sky high. I can see the headlines:

'Eve Monument Ganked, Greifer tells CCP/Judge 'HTFU'.'


It's the monument's own fault for not flying aligned, or did not fit a tank.



The inability of some people to differentiate between spaceship pixels in an online video game and a public monument in real life continues to astound.


You have to admit that was pretty funny.

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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#465 - 2014-05-06 05:40:34 UTC
Carribean Queen wrote:
Here's another idea as well.

CCP, would it be possible to have a Digital version of the Monument INSIDE OF EVE? One that can't be locked or shot at for people in game to come visit since we can't come to Iceland?

They should put it in a hall in a Concord station and unlock the door in that station.

Remove standings and insurance.
Shurgin Ambraelle
Vagrants Against Gankers In Null Alliances
#466 - 2014-05-06 05:42:27 UTC
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
Carribean Queen wrote:
Here's another idea as well.

CCP, would it be possible to have a Digital version of the Monument INSIDE OF EVE? One that can't be locked or shot at for people in game to come visit since we can't come to Iceland?

They should put it in a hall in a Concord station and unlock the door in that station.


Walking in stations... coming soon to a century near you... too soon?

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#467 - 2014-05-06 05:45:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
Carribean Queen wrote:
Here's another idea as well.

CCP, would it be possible to have a Digital version of the Monument INSIDE OF EVE? One that can't be locked or shot at for people in game to come visit since we can't come to Iceland?

They should put it in a hall in a Concord station and unlock the door in that station.

The Concord Station in Reykjavík, there's even space for station games outside.

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Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters
Rote Kapelle
#468 - 2014-05-06 05:47:43 UTC
Shurgin Ambraelle wrote:
Galen Darksmith wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Octoven wrote:


What defines a MEANINGFUL landmark is relative to how the person feels about it. For example, I may not give two ***** about the Statue of Liberty, but some one else may see it in a more personally meaningful way. It isn't my place or anyone else to say otherwise. We all take different landmarks and monuments differently than others.

Yes it is a crime, but to the people who this monument commemorates its is indeed an insult to their accomplishments. As said, it isn't for you to define if this is indeed meaningful or not, and if it really bothers you that much that others do, then the solution seems quite simple...ignore it.



Can you imagine if someone really did serious damage to it? Not just scratched it, blew it sky high. I can see the headlines:

'Eve Monument Ganked, Greifer tells CCP/Judge 'HTFU'.'


It's the monument's own fault for not flying aligned, or did not fit a tank.



The inability of some people to differentiate between spaceship pixels in an online video game and a public monument in real life continues to astound.


You have to admit that was pretty funny.


It would have been a decent quip from anyone who didn't actually think that the situations were comparable, sure.

"EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for." -CCP Wrangler
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#469 - 2014-05-06 06:24:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Cygnet Lythanea
Galen Darksmith wrote:

It would have been a decent quip from anyone who didn't actually think that the situations were comparable, sure.



To be blunt: real murders have happened for things that happened in online games. (The Legend of Mir 3 stabbing death immediately springs to mind)

Minor vandalism? So what?

The funniest part is that so many of you seem shocked by the idea. Let me ask you a question, did it ever occur to any of you that spending so much time coming up with new and exciting ways to be the biggest **** possible to other people might not be healthy? That it might lead to people doing questionable things in real life?
Audrey UntzUntz
Doomheim
#470 - 2014-05-06 06:31:29 UTC
Feel bad for CCP.
Don't feel bad for the dirtbag troll who doesn't deserve to be on the wall to begin with.
Arancar Australis
Dead Sun Rising Enterprises
#471 - 2014-05-06 06:33:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Arancar Australis
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Lephia DeGrande wrote:
Ha! What a fine Community we have! Right? ...


One that scratches names, (allegedly) feigns twitter accounts to blame it on others, lots of hate and distrust, puts out quick verdicts ... yes, that sounds very much exactly like what CCP wants EVE to be. Blink so, why is everyone complaining?

Because this isn't EVE.


Don't bother, James.

Carebears can't separate the game from real life. To them, every lost pixel is a dagger in their poor hearts. Everything you need to know about Rivr Luzade you can learn from his post at the bottom of the second page of this thread.



Now Now Kaarous, don't tar all us carebears as blinkered characters who don't know that when we log off, the game is finished. The majority of the community will agree that this act is not acceptable, a smaller minority will troll because...well just because they can and will get bites from the fish. An even smaller minority will take pleasure in what was done.

Let's not drag the whole carebear vs PVP'er into this and leave it as what it is...some twit that makes the community of Eve look bad. Sad

(Damn I did feed your trollish behaviour X )
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#472 - 2014-05-06 06:34:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Galen Darksmith wrote:

It would have been a decent quip from anyone who didn't actually think that the situations were comparable, sure.



To be blunt: real murders have happened for things that happened in online games. (The Legend of Mir 3 stabbing death immediately springs to mind)

Minor vandalism? So what?

The funniest part is that so many of you seem shocked by the idea. Let me ask you a question, did it ever occur to any of you that spending so much time coming up with new and exciting ways to be the biggest **** possible to other people might not be healthy? That it might lead to people doing questionable things in real life?
People are shocked because the majority of us are responsible adults when we're not busy backstabbing or otherwise screwing each other over in a virtual world.

Sure there's going to be the odd fruit cake that takes ingame grievances out of game, we're no different from any other gaming community in that respect, but the fruit cakes are the minority, not the majority.

Being an arse in game != being one in real life for most people.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#473 - 2014-05-06 06:52:00 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
People are shocked because the majority of us are responsible adults when we're not busy backstabbing or otherwise screwing each other over in a virtual world.

Sure there's going to be the odd fruit cake that takes ingame grievances out of game, we're no different from any other gaming community in that respect, but the fruitcakes are the minority, not the majority.

Being an arse in game != being one in real life for most people.


I think it would be interesting if we could get a look at the number of players who have left the game due to arrest and conviction for crimes. I think that a lot of you might be surprised, if what I personally think would be the case turns out to be true.
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#474 - 2014-05-06 06:53:07 UTC  |  Edited by: JC Anderson
I've seen many comments as to the fact that they don't see why anybody is making a big deal out of this, and have also expressed that they find it absurd that anybody thinks the individual who did it should face criminal charges.

The act was indeed criminal, and the perpetrator deserves to face the full consequence of his or her childish and selfish act of vandalism.

1. The monument, which sits within Reykjavik harbor was donated to and now owned by the city. This alone means that the crime in itself is even worse than had it been a simple case of vandalizing CCP's private property.

2. The monument not only has the names of those alive and active within the game, but includes capsuleers that have passed away in the real world under various circumstances. Even though the name scratched off of the monument is not one of these individuals, the offense is still just the same by the simple fact that they ARE ON IT and part of it as a whole. It wouldn't be a stretch to think that some of these people have friends and family that are in fact upset over this.

And they have every right to be if that is the case.

3. The monument was designed by the renowned artist Sigurdur Gudmundsson. Whether you agree with the artistic direction he went with or not, the fact remains that there was an enormous amount of creative effort that went into it. Also related to this is the value of the creation in itself as a work of art by an artist who's creations often bring in fairly large amounts of money both in auctions and when purchased directly from a gallery. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, the amount of money that went into hiring Sigurdur Gudmundsson as well as the build costs combined is likely quite a large sum.

4. And finally we should really stop looking at this as an act against Xenuria alone. Yes, that may have been the only name scratched off of it, but the end result is a slight against every single name listed. It is a singular work of art, and not just a collection of individual names on a hunk of metal.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#475 - 2014-05-06 07:09:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
I think it would be interesting if we could get a look at the number of players who have left the game due to arrest and conviction for crimes. I think that a lot of you might be surprised, if what I personally think would be the case turns out to be true.
I obviously think a lot more of the Eve community, and its members, than you do.

Which says something about both of us.

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Doomheim
#476 - 2014-05-06 07:11:31 UTC
Chopper Rollins wrote:
On another tab i'm reading about some awful things happening to people in Syria.
Then i click back to here and refresh, as posts arrive.
The contrast is simply incredible.


It's not legitimite to judge the people this way.


It's not #FirstWorldProblems.


Recognize the fact that Reykjaviks property intentionally got damaged
and there is a cost involved in the repairment of this property.


It was theirs.


It's simply not a good thing to do.
For the people of Reykjavic it's probably a big deal!


So why not for us too?
We're all mentioned on the statue!*




Besides ... what should we do anyway?







































(except Erotica 1. Hahahahahaahahahaha xD)*
Octoven
Stellar Production
#477 - 2014-05-06 07:12:12 UTC
Shurgin Ambraelle wrote:
Carribean Queen wrote:
Here's another idea as well.

CCP, would it be possible to have a Digital version of the Monument INSIDE OF EVE? One that can't be locked or shot at for people in game to come visit since we can't come to Iceland?



You know CCP a digital memorial, now that would be a crazy idea. I mean you did a great monumnet for the first titan pop and an even better one for B-5R what about something like this. A 1.0 system that allows no combat just for a tribute to the players and of EVE. Something different and very large where you could type in your name and warp to it. I maybe asking too much but this is a great idea.


A scale in which I think you are going with this would be pretty huge lol essentially your name would be about the size of a shuttle. Given the amount of names on a plate x the number of plates needed, you are looking at one massive object in space to render. it would make a station look like a pod sitting next to a titan P

I wouldn't mind having a room inside a station, possibly that station that 10 yr vets could dock at which never got built, be made available. Or as someone suggested any CONCORD station...perhaps one in Yulai where you could leave your CQ into a wall with all the names hung on the wall. Of course you would need to enlarge the font a bit more, but since you arent talking about real world materials and cost, font sizing isnt an issue.

Although I hope to visit Iceland one day for a fanfest, I wouldn't mind seeing it in game.
Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
#478 - 2014-05-06 07:31:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Lephia DeGrande
Its sad on several ways.

First, it was again an Act from a non icelander who had again to damage properties from another Country such people really got my nerves because its already cheap on so many ways to leave another country damaged...

Second, searching plates with thoudands of names and stray like a rat only to scratch one specific Persons name is so ... Uggghh pathetic.

Third, its also a mirror how people Act to each other in this game, i know many are great people who share some good times ingame but their are also so many assholes even ingame who lost any goal or stretch to humatiy aslong they can squeeze the Last drop of blood out of someone. (Not even have to mention erotica1!)

So everyone has also to point on his own nose, try to improve your behaviors not only in real life but also ingame to a meaningful Level, because its just a game right?

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#479 - 2014-05-06 07:34:53 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
People are shocked because the majority of us are responsible adults when we're not busy backstabbing or otherwise screwing each other over in a virtual world.

Sure there's going to be the odd fruit cake that takes ingame grievances out of game, we're no different from any other gaming community in that respect, but the fruitcakes are the minority, not the majority.

Being an arse in game != being one in real life for most people.


I think it would be interesting if we could get a look at the number of players who have left the game due to arrest and conviction for crimes. I think that a lot of you might be surprised, if what I personally think would be the case turns out to be true.

The only arrests I can imagine being particularly common would be for possession of certain illegal substances.
Which is something I fully support, so that's okay.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Yim Sei
Ontogenic Achronycal PLC
#480 - 2014-05-06 07:38:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Yim Sei
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Galen Darksmith wrote:

It would have been a decent quip from anyone who didn't actually think that the situations were comparable, sure.



To be blunt: real murders have happened for things that happened in online games. (The Legend of Mir 3 stabbing death immediately springs to mind)

Minor vandalism? So what?

The funniest part is that so many of you seem shocked by the idea. Let me ask you a question, did it ever occur to any of you that spending so much time coming up with new and exciting ways to be the biggest **** possible to other people might not be healthy? That it might lead to people doing questionable things in real life?


That's actually a pretty good point.

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