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motie one
Secret Passage
#21 - 2014-04-30 09:54:35 UTC  |  Edited by: motie one
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Then you should know how utterly incapable CONCORD already is, even in such high class systems as Jita. Further delay is equal to taking Concord away. It is pointless and does nothing to foster the Sandbox. Players, after all, don't play the Sandbox, they just want to live their lower instincts and sinister desires. High sec, however, should no be the first place for that. That is what Low sec and 00 sec is for.

But then again, exactly this attitude drives people out of these parts of space, because who wants to voluntarily take on the role of the victim, right? Blink And then you and all the others expect that changing even more areas of space into this rotten state will make people happily run into your guns and keep them playing because it is so enjoyable? That is delusional.



Unfortunately, when day by day, one is told that being a victim is the natural state of things and you must take pleasure in the suffering of others in order to understand EvE ...

Then the day comes when people think. "Wait a minute, I do not want to, that turns my stomach, maybe they are right and EvE is NOT for me" and yet another one goes, even though he may have been lucky enough not to experience it directly.

The toxic culture of hating all that is not twisted and corrupt spreads unchecked, it is not concord that needs changing, it is the accepted attitude.

TL;DR sandbox does not equal litter-tray.

Ps consider this post an exit interview, not because I have been a victim, but because I see the cesspit has overflowed. I love eve, I hate wallowing in ****. I will return if the plumber ever visits.

No you can't. I will keep my stuff for when I return.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2014-04-30 11:16:24 UTC
If CONCORD is already failing to stop people, I see no reason to nerf it.

I don't generally expect to be telling the gankers to HTFU.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#23 - 2014-04-30 12:14:11 UTC
PPL get around concord just fine.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
Legetus Shmoof Metallii
Resilience.
The Initiative.
#24 - 2014-04-30 15:36:38 UTC
Don't like CONCORD? Go to null sec where you belong

O tempora o mores!
Legetus Shmoof Metallii
Resilience.
The Initiative.
#25 - 2014-04-30 16:51:47 UTC
motie one wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Then you should know how utterly incapable CONCORD already is, even in such high class systems as Jita. Further delay is equal to taking Concord away. It is pointless and does nothing to foster the Sandbox. Players, after all, don't play the Sandbox, they just want to live their lower instincts and sinister desires. High sec, however, should no be the first place for that. That is what Low sec and 00 sec is for.

But then again, exactly this attitude drives people out of these parts of space, because who wants to voluntarily take on the role of the victim, right? Blink And then you and all the others expect that changing even more areas of space into this rotten state will make people happily run into your guns and keep them playing because it is so enjoyable? That is delusional.



Unfortunately, when day by day, one is told that being a victim is the natural state of things and you must take pleasure in the suffering of others in order to understand EvE ...

Then the day comes when people think. "Wait a minute, I do not want to, that turns my stomach, maybe they are right and EvE is NOT for me" and yet another one goes, even though he may have been lucky enough not to experience it directly.

The toxic culture of hating all that is not twisted and corrupt spreads unchecked, it is not concord that needs changing, it is the accepted attitude.

TL;DR sandbox does not equal litter-tray.

Ps consider this post an exit interview, not because I have been a victim, but because I see the cesspit has overflowed. I love eve, I hate wallowing in ****. I will return if the plumber ever visits.

No you can't. I will keep my stuff for when I return.

You're missing the point of EVE then. Good riddance

O tempora o mores!
Bohneik Itohn
10.K
#26 - 2014-04-30 17:44:07 UTC
Legetus Shmoof Metallii wrote:
motie one wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Then you should know how utterly incapable CONCORD already is, even in such high class systems as Jita. Further delay is equal to taking Concord away. It is pointless and does nothing to foster the Sandbox. Players, after all, don't play the Sandbox, they just want to live their lower instincts and sinister desires. High sec, however, should no be the first place for that. That is what Low sec and 00 sec is for.

But then again, exactly this attitude drives people out of these parts of space, because who wants to voluntarily take on the role of the victim, right? Blink And then you and all the others expect that changing even more areas of space into this rotten state will make people happily run into your guns and keep them playing because it is so enjoyable? That is delusional.



Unfortunately, when day by day, one is told that being a victim is the natural state of things and you must take pleasure in the suffering of others in order to understand EvE ...

Then the day comes when people think. "Wait a minute, I do not want to, that turns my stomach, maybe they are right and EvE is NOT for me" and yet another one goes, even though he may have been lucky enough not to experience it directly.

The toxic culture of hating all that is not twisted and corrupt spreads unchecked, it is not concord that needs changing, it is the accepted attitude.

TL;DR sandbox does not equal litter-tray.

Ps consider this post an exit interview, not because I have been a victim, but because I see the cesspit has overflowed. I love eve, I hate wallowing in ****. I will return if the plumber ever visits.

No you can't. I will keep my stuff for when I return.

You're missing the point of EVE then. Good riddance



No. You two just differ on what you believe the points/focus of Eve to be. This is good and natural because if you didn't the game wouldn't actually be a "sandbox".

CONCORD response time is fine. If you don't like the response time move to a lower security area, that's why the security ratings exist in the first place.

Crimewatch mechanics are broken, and need to be fixed. So many silly shenanigans going on with crimewatch that I don't even want to talk about it. Just fix that crap.

Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!  - Freyya

Are you a forum alt? Have you ever wondered why your experience on the forums is always so frustrating and unrewarding? This may help.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#27 - 2014-04-30 17:46:16 UTC
Bohneik Itohn wrote:


Crimewatch mechanics are broken, and need to be fixed. So many silly shenanigans going on with crimewatch that I don't even want to talk about it. Just fix that crap.


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EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
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