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[Kronos] Hull Hitpoint Rigs

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Luscius Uta
#81 - 2014-04-29 08:28:56 UTC
I too think that penalty to cargo capacity on those rigs would make more sense than speed penalty. It would also mean we'll see less Orcas fitted with those, which will please gankers Big smile

What wouldn't please gankers is my hopes of seeing a ship with bonus to remote hull reppers, which I think would be the next logical step after the introduction of those rigs (since more people with buffer hull tank their PvP ships now).

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Tactical-Retreat
#82 - 2014-04-29 08:47:07 UTC
Hahaha :D Can't think of any uses but having the option is certainly "sandboxy". :D

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Shepard Wong Ogeko
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Minmatar Republic
#83 - 2014-04-29 10:09:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Shepard Wong Ogeko
Luscius Uta wrote:
I too think that penalty to cargo capacity on those rigs would make more sense than speed penalty. It would also mean we'll see less Orcas fitted with those, which will please gankers Big smile

What wouldn't please gankers is my hopes of seeing a ship with bonus to remote hull reppers, which I think would be the next logical step after the introduction of those rigs (since more people with buffer hull tank their PvP ships now).



Nah. The speed penalty is fine. It fits with the rest of the armor rigs, and I support people having the sense to tank there Orcas.

Now that you mention it, there aren't any ships with a remote hull rep bonus. Kind of wish they would add it to the Rorq. It would be fitting, and the carriers tend to get a dual bonus, either shield and armor, or shield/armor and cap transfer.

Remote hull rep range to go with the shield rep range?
Anthar Thebess
#84 - 2014-04-29 10:21:38 UTC
Rigging Freighters could be nice:
- Current EHP and Space with cargo rigs
- more EHP but less space when using those new rigs
- less EHP but bigger warp speed when using other rigs

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Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#85 - 2014-04-29 11:21:43 UTC
yes please.
Meytal
Doomheim
#86 - 2014-04-29 13:42:42 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Another small change in our Summer 2014 release that we're ready to collect feedback on:

We're planning on adding a series of Hull HP rigs. These rigs will use the Armor Rigging skill, with the same speed decrease penalty as trimarks. They will be available in all sizes.
The T1 rigs would increase hull hitpoints by 20%, at the cost of 50 calibration.
The T2 rigs would increase hull hitpoints by 25%, at the cost of 75 calibration.

We don't expect these to replace trimarks and CDFEs for most players, but having the option should be interesting in several cases.

Let us know what you think!
-Fozzie

Lovely idea!

You guys planning on pricing these similar to Trimarks?
Trii Seo
Goonswarm Federation
#87 - 2014-04-29 15:07:34 UTC
Hull rep drones?
Hull rigs?
What next, actually useful hull reps and hull tanking, the manliest form of tanking, becoming an actual thing?

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Gabriel Z
Krabulous
#88 - 2014-04-29 15:21:31 UTC
The Sinister wrote:
First

so?
Yterje
Rage Quit Consolation
#89 - 2014-04-29 16:21:46 UTC
Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:
Luscius Uta wrote:
I too think that penalty to cargo capacity on those rigs would make more sense than speed penalty. It would also mean we'll see less Orcas fitted with those, which will please gankers Big smile

What wouldn't please gankers is my hopes of seeing a ship with bonus to remote hull reppers, which I think would be the next logical step after the introduction of those rigs (since more people with buffer hull tank their PvP ships now).



Nah. The speed penalty is fine. It fits with the rest of the armor rigs, and I support people having the sense to tank there Orcas.

Now that you mention it, there aren't any ships with a remote hull rep bonus. Kind of wish they would add it to the Rorq. It would be fitting, and the carriers tend to get a dual bonus, either shield and armor, or shield/armor and cap transfer.

Remote hull rep range to go with the shield rep range?


But this isn't an armor rig! They're just putting it in among them because it makes the most sense of the categories. Most of the carrying capacity isn't in the Orca's main bay, so it wouldn't be a huge deal for them, but perhaps enough to make them consider other options too instead of these rigs being the only viable option now.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#90 - 2014-04-29 16:37:44 UTC
Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:
Nah. The speed penalty is fine. It fits with the rest of the armor rigs
It's a HULL rig. Not an armor rig.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#91 - 2014-04-29 17:34:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Soldarius
TrouserDeagle wrote:
eh. sig radius is far less important than it's supposed to be, and % for %, far better than a speed penalty.


Clearly you have never been bombed.

These new rigs are going to be worth the laughs. Don't forget BPOs, plz.

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Gallente Federation
#92 - 2014-04-29 17:57:28 UTC
Swiftstrike1 wrote:
I might put some on my orca alongside the DCU and bulkhead in the lows, but I can't think of any other situations where I'd ever use them.

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Pandemic Legion
#93 - 2014-04-29 19:13:15 UTC
Cripes

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Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#94 - 2014-04-29 19:33:38 UTC
would be nice to have a full new load of hull tanking ships confuse the hell out of people can imagine it

"HAHAHA that mega has shockingly bad armor tank haha he gunna d......... HES HULL TANKED OH NOWZ HULL IS GOOD"

or something along them lines

i really do wanna use hull tanking for real though
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The Troll Bridge
#95 - 2014-04-29 19:41:40 UTC
Errrrrrrmaaaagggeeeeeerrrrrrrrdddd!!!!!



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Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#96 - 2014-04-29 19:51:26 UTC
Not just yes, but HELL yes.

Gallente hull tanking FTW!

Now make the hull repairers useful again.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#97 - 2014-04-29 20:34:37 UTC
So if we can't shield tank, and we suck at armor tanking, basically you're telling us to go to hull? Smile

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Warcrows
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#98 - 2014-04-29 21:30:33 UTC
Harvey James wrote:
and who would use them?
hull tanking as a whole is something that needs work if you expect people to hull tank anything


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Shepard Wong Ogeko
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#99 - 2014-04-29 21:54:25 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:
Nah. The speed penalty is fine. It fits with the rest of the armor rigs
It's a HULL rig. Not an armor rig.


But it is listed with the armor rigs, which reduce speed. And the bulkheads modules, which also adds hull hp also reduces speed.
Catherine Laartii
Doomheim
#100 - 2014-04-29 21:59:05 UTC
Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:
Nah. The speed penalty is fine. It fits with the rest of the armor rigs
It's a HULL rig. Not an armor rig.


But it is listed with the armor rigs, which reduce speed. And the bulkheads modules, which also adds hull hp also reduces speed.

The armor repair rigs increase pg cost instead of reduce speed. This indicated flexibility in that area, and reflects a greater need to change penalties for rigs in general.