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Cruelty can be harmful, a word of warning from the wife of a long term eve player.

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Deviana Sevidon
Jades Falcon Guards
#81 - 2011-12-02 11:04:34 UTC
it is not about a person taking a game to seriously but others people who use the: it is a game-excuse to be total dicks.

Again, while a lot of things are allowed in this game, EVE does not require you to be one.

I have also found a lot of friends in EVE, I even met some of them in real life. People I can trust with my assets and in return they can depend on me.

Many people here are not playing an dickhead on the internet, they are a **** and just use EVE as a platform and it's a game as an excuse for what they really are.

....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced.

Kalle Demos
Ironic Corp Name
#82 - 2011-12-02 13:47:21 UTC
1. Account sharing is against the EULA (had to say that)
2. Addiction comes in many forms, doesnt matter what the person is addicted to, getting addicted to one thing or another will be very easy, this is really the issue
3. Cruelty? This is no different than him being a junky then going clean and wondering why his 'friend' junkies are pissed at him

I doubt this is legit anyway but it got me to post so thats good I guess, nice that you know what ransoming is but dont know the difference between company and corporation.

Also if you go to rehab to cure an addiction, the last thing you would do when you leave rehab is restart the addiction, thats like when a fat person rewards themselve with cake after a workout, it makes as much sense as giving cocaine to a junky as a reward for not doing cocaine for a week.

I would say this is 100% a troll but tbh it sounds like a typical scenario that is all so common in life, if it is legit, you my dear are partially responsible for his demise.

Also who pushes their partner and forces them to tell stuff, controlling much? If you had a better understanding he would share his thoughts with you anyway
Blood Fart
Rock Hard Productions
#83 - 2011-12-02 20:05:24 UTC
So....the hubby hid in the basement getting wacked on pills and playing eve until it became a problem. Then upon returning home from rehab he almost immediately goes out, boots up and ODs and it's someone else's fault?

If you're for real I feel sorry for ya....but video games aren't the problem. What's next? Sorry, I got high because my playstation memory card won't work? Sorry hun, but could you bail me out I got arrested because the Donkey Kong machine at the corner store got unplugged and lost my high score?

Dope is the problem and it's his fault.
Mudkest
Contagious Goat Labs
#84 - 2011-12-03 00:48:27 UTC
I'm sorry, but if anyone OD's over an internet game he has more serious issues then said internet game.

Either there are other issues that and some game merely gave the last push over the edge(and if the game did not, then something else would have not much later) adn you should look at/blame/deal with whatever got him to that point in the first place

or, if it is the games fault entirly, then the person is rather unstable to begin with and if it wasnt for the game, then something else would have pushed him over the edge sooner or later. Then again, pretty much same as the other point.

I'm sorry for your hardships, but dont put the blame on some internet game.
CptConorado
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#85 - 2011-12-03 06:39:45 UTC
Reported for user sharing, just because your husband is cray cray doesn't mean he can break the rules.

Reserved.

Taedrin
Virtues Corporation
#86 - 2011-12-03 06:53:50 UTC
Feilamya wrote:

Always remember:
- Your ingame character is not you.
- The ingame characters played by other players are not them.
- Nothing that happens inside the game world is real.


I"m sorry, but you are so completely and totally obviously wrong.

Your ingame character is not you? So does someone take over your body when you sit in front of your computer and force your hands to move against your will while you play this game? Of course not. YOU control what your character does, therefore YOU bear the responsibility for your actions in this game. Your ingame character is nothing more than a bunch of pixels. It isn't even an artificial intelligence.

And likewise, the ingame character played by other players ARE them. THEY control the actions of their characters. when your ingame character meets someone else's ingame character, an exchange is made. MMOs *ARE* a form of human interaction. Real life friendships are torn apart because of this game. At the same time, real life friendships are forged because of this game. Marriages end in divorce because of this game. Yet also people find their soulmates in this game.

EVERYTHING that happens in this game world is real. EVE Online IS real. Hundreds of employees at CCP work day and night in order to make it real.

Now, I'm not saying that in-game actions are equivalent to their real-life analogues - because they aren't. EVE Online thrives upon scum and villainy. But people need to realize that just because EVE is a game doesn't mean that their actions don't have consequences. Your actions ALWAYS have consequences.

To the OP, I'm sorry that your husband had to go through what he did. However, it would probably be in his best interests if he does not play this game. EVE Online isn't for everyone, especially for people who cope with problems in game by taking drugs in real life. That being said, I am glad that you care enough about your husband to say something, even in possible face of ridicule. Please be as supportive of your husband as possible - it is obvious to me that he needs your love and strength now more than ever.
Reiisha
#87 - 2011-12-03 14:55:59 UTC
Tora Oni wrote:
Don't blame a game or the players who play it. This is how EVE is suppose to be. Maybe he should try another game less stressful. Hope he gets better soon.


EVE isn't "supposed" to be about backstabbing. It's supposed to be about giving you that choice.

Subtle difference, and one many people don't seem to understand. They keep forgetting that it's possible (and rewarding) to play the "good guy".

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#88 - 2011-12-03 16:31:00 UTC
I am sure there are a lot of people who want to be in command of those "others" who respond easily to being told "how things are supposed to be" when given certain kinds of orders.

It can be said then that MMOs prove that nothing has changed since the fall of Berlin in 1945 and the fall of Communism in 1989.

People will just as easily line you up and shoot you and your family now as then, when given the orders to do so, and hide behind, along with a uniform and trappings of a state apparatus to shield them both from physical reprisal and their own conscience.

The disagreement with the "this is EvE" crowd shows at least that there are some people who, no matter how fancy the uniform you give them and how tall the orders, will not carry out injustice against others. Even when they can, they don't, and for that latter type of person I am proud to say that I have trained at least 1000 of them in the use of small arms. Big smile

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Percy Dovetonsils
Twilight Cadre
#89 - 2011-12-03 17:34:18 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I am sure there are a lot of people who want to be in command of those "others" who respond easily to being told "how things are supposed to be" when given certain kinds of orders.

It can be said then that MMOs prove that nothing has changed since the fall of Berlin in 1945 and the fall of Communism in 1989.

People will just as easily line you up and shoot you and your family now as then, when given the orders to do so, and hide behind, along with a uniform and trappings of a state apparatus to shield them both from physical reprisal and their own conscience.

The disagreement with the "this is EvE" crowd shows at least that there are some people who, no matter how fancy the uniform you give them and how tall the orders, will not carry out injustice against others. Even when they can, they don't, and for that latter type of person I am proud to say that I have trained at least 1000 of them in the use of small arms. Big smile



I'm requesting a Godwin's Law ruling on this one. It is an oblique reference, but I think a reference none the less, which would thus award thread victory to those who kicked this guy from their corp. (You can't even say Hitler in this forum!)

In the mean time, yay for gullibility and taking this guy's story (and even the idea that "somebody else" is posting it) completely at face value! I read it on the internet, so it must be true!

PD
Mag's
Azn Empire
#90 - 2011-12-03 17:55:29 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I am sure there are a lot of people who want to be in command of those "others" who respond easily to being told "how things are supposed to be" when given certain kinds of orders.

It can be said then that MMOs prove that nothing has changed since the fall of Berlin in 1945 and the fall of Communism in 1989.

People will just as easily line you up and shoot you and your family now as then, when given the orders to do so, and hide behind, along with a uniform and trappings of a state apparatus to shield them both from physical reprisal and their own conscience.

The disagreement with the "this is EvE" crowd shows at least that there are some people who, no matter how fancy the uniform you give them and how tall the orders, will not carry out injustice against others. Even when they can, they don't, and for that latter type of person I am proud to say that I have trained at least 1000 of them in the use of small arms. Big smile

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Ayuren Aakiwa
Perkone
Caldari State
#91 - 2011-12-03 18:00:05 UTC
If eve drove him to od and everything else it's probably better for him that his **** got stolen and he quit. He clearly can't handle the game P
VKhaun Vex
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#92 - 2011-12-04 05:56:37 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
The disagreement with the "this is EvE" crowd shows at least that there are some people who, no matter how fancy the uniform you give them and how tall the orders, will not carry out injustice against others. Even when they can, they don't, and for that latter type of person I am proud to say that I have trained at least 1000 of them in the use of small arms. Big smile


Difference being that it is entertainment. People LIKE being evil sometimes. We like shooter games and movies with explosions. We LIKE having a game where things are cut throat and we're going to play that way. Just like anyone who doesn't like blood shouldn't play a bloody game, or people who don't like nudity shouldn't watch porn... if you can't handle a cut throat game then GTFO my EVE.


Charges Twilight fans with Ka-bar -Surfin's PlunderBunny LIIIIIIIIIIINNEEEEE PIIIEEEECCCCEEE!!!!!!! -Taedrin Using relativity to irrational numbers is smart -rodyas I no longer believe we landed on the moon. -Atticus Fynch

Pinaculus
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#93 - 2011-12-04 14:12:23 UTC
Amazing troll thread...

The virtual stuff in my hangar in EVE doesn't belong to me. It belongs to CCP. I'm renting it from them for a mere $15 a month (a trifle, really). If I blow it up, give it away, or hoard it...it's still $15.

The people in my corp are also paying $15 a month to rent pixels.

How can they steal from me? I'm paying $15 a month no matter what, and everything I have access to is borrowed from CCP.

The answer is "They can't." They can usurp the use of a certain array of pixels, but nothing more. They can spoil the quality of my $15 block of time, but that is all.

Every ship in every hangar is already fantasy space-dust. We're flying rental cars destined for the crusher. Why in the world would we get emotionally attached to these things?

And if a bunch of buddies "steal" from me? So what?! Gripe for a while, then chuckle about being such a sucker and move on.

I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs.

Elviraah
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#94 - 2011-12-05 08:05:03 UTC
Just to note a response to all the folks who are commenting that the victim this thread is speaking about should quit eve because he can't handle it.

This person was playing eve WAY before he developed a substance abuse problem, which I might add occured out of legitimate perscription to the drug.

This person has had an 8 year long eve online career that was quite succesful and included up to 12 active accounts at a time, 4 of which he considered mains and had logged in daily. He wasn't even introduced to the substance until about 2 years ago if I remember correctly.

The argument that he shouldn't be playing eve because he cannot handle it is incredibly incorrect and I hope this helps to clarify any misunderstanding regarding the topic.

Elviraah
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#95 - 2011-12-05 08:09:50 UTC
Oh and furthermore,

We do not want isk, donations, or financial help of any kind.

It is not the motivation for this thread. I am not even sure the person being discussed here has any intention to return to eve. From my understanding hes a big star wars fan and has expressed interest in the new star wars mmo coming out. But don't quote me on this im just speculating.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#96 - 2011-12-05 08:17:17 UTC
I remember when the Star Trek fans were leaving for the new Star Trek game that was supposed to kill Eve....

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny

Elviraah
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#97 - 2011-12-05 08:24:23 UTC
I love how wilba stated he was going to investigate the matter and came back to state it was troll.

Ask Eperor and his officers about the 3 shiney new deadspace fitted hulks, mackinaws, skiffs. The orca, rorqual, faction pos, all the ore and loot. all the minerals etc and much more that they refused to return after removing the person this thread is about from the corp while he was in treatment.

Obviously you did no investigation or just shoved this under the rug in an attempt to prevent any negative PR for your alliance.
Wibla
Tactical Narcotics Team
#98 - 2011-12-05 23:12:31 UTC
I called the story a troll, we figured out fairly quickly who was the originator of this thread.

And you know what? This is EVE Online, not hello kitty online or WoW. He was booted because he was bad at eve and got his stuff blown up more often than not.

I've not been able to verify that any of the assets he claims that LVSKY stole was actually his to begin with, or even existed outside of his mind, especially not, and I quote your quite entertaining mail: http://pastie.org/private/2pju2xy0oj5ffbem54vhzw

Quote:
Many other ships that I do not know for 100% the details on, like noctis, faction fitted probing ships etc.. there were if i can remember correctly about 15-20 ships in the hanger bay owned by Skoda.
Several Billions in resources such as ores, ice, minerals etc.
Several Billions in super carrier components etc.
SC and Titan BPCs

As far as I know, he left about 10k arkonor, 5k bistot (or something to that effect) and some kernite, aswell as 5 hulks, but they weren't even tanked, much less faction fit. FWIW, he owed wolfie over a bill isk so the hulks were given to him as compensation.
Jack Cavanaugh
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#99 - 2011-12-06 00:15:51 UTC
EVE RULES:

1. Don't trust anyone.

2. If you find someone you can actually trust, see rule #1.
Astenion
Nephilim Coalition
#100 - 2011-12-06 16:03:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Astenion
You people need to go back to ******* elementary school and learn to ******* read.

Her husband suffered a physical injury and became addicted to the pain meds, not Eve. After getting out of rehab for the pain meds, he fired up his computer and realized that he was in a douche corp who stole all his ****. He was in rehab for the painkillers, not Eve, but this put him back over the edge due to his fragile state of mind.

Holy ****, people, it's literally a 4th grade reading level. Everyone who's going on about how he shouldn't have let himself become addicted to Eve should just eat the barrel of a shotgun right now because you're even more pathetic due to your inability to read elementary English.

That said, it's the internet. Eve is the last thing you wanna play if your sensibilities are easily offended. The entire premise of the game is to screw over everyone you can in order to put yourself on top.