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[Kronos] Hull Hitpoint Rigs

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X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#21 - 2014-04-28 18:18:33 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
\o/!!! It's a start. What's the penalty? Hopefully nothing or some non-critical stat like cargo space. If it's speed or agility, then we need to talk.

XG


i missed it in the original post first time i read it; it uses armor rigging skills and has the same penalty (speed).


Yeah missed it too. We need to help Fozzie understand how devastating this penalty is.
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#22 - 2014-04-28 18:19:02 UTC
Are we also getting hull resistance rigs? What about hull rep rigs? Why not make it a full blown third option for tanking?

X Gallentius wrote:
\o/!!! It's a start. What's the penalty? Hopefully nothing or some non-critical stat like cargo space. If it's speed or agility, then we need to talk.

CCP Fozzie wrote:
These rigs will use the Armor Rigging skill, with the same speed decrease penalty as trimarks.
Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
#23 - 2014-04-28 18:21:13 UTC
What about Honor rigs?

Increases Honor Tank by 20/25% for Tech1/Tech2.

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Arla Sarain
#24 - 2014-04-28 18:24:51 UTC
Could fit a bunch on a Taranis. To go well with that Bulkhead 4k ehp build.
Dave Stark
#25 - 2014-04-28 18:25:35 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
\o/!!! It's a start. What's the penalty? Hopefully nothing or some non-critical stat like cargo space. If it's speed or agility, then we need to talk.

XG


i missed it in the original post first time i read it; it uses armor rigging skills and has the same penalty (speed).


Yeah missed it too. We need to help Fozzie understand how devastating this penalty is.


actually, reduced speed isn't that much of an issue for an orca. assuming it's a 5% penalty with max skills that's what? 3.75 m/s per rig?

oh noes.
Paz Heiwa
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2014-04-28 18:27:53 UTC
The only ship that will use this is Orca, and everyone will use those now. Make it 15% stacking penalty for EVERY type of cargo hold and it might be ballanced. Then you have choice, either fit tank or fit cargo. Also why cargo expanders lower hull but hull expanders do not lower cargo holds?
Kadl
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2014-04-28 18:34:37 UTC
Tengu Grib wrote:
Harvey James wrote:
and who would use them?
hull tanking as a whole is something that needs work if you expect people to hull tank anything


Hull rigs on orcas, with DC and Bulkhead. Yeah, not looking forward to trying to pop those.


Ah! Hull tanking at it's finest.

The market may be limited but this is a humorous and good addition.
Max Kolonko
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-04-28 18:36:49 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Another small change in our Summer 2014 release that we're ready to collect feedback on:

We're planning on adding a series of Hull HP rigs. These rigs will use the Armor Rigging skill, with the same speed decrease penalty as trimarks. They will be available in all sizes.
The T1 rigs would increase hull hitpoints by 20%, at the cost of 50 calibration.
The T2 rigs would increase hull hitpoints by 25%, at the cost of 75 calibration.

We don't expect these to replace trimarks and CDFEs for most players, but having the option should be interesting in several cases.

Let us know what you think!
-Fozzie


Will have to refit my orca from 3x core defence to those babies now :)

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Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#29 - 2014-04-28 18:41:37 UTC
Powers Sa wrote:
RIP orca ganking


Nah, fail fits will still be out there.

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Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#30 - 2014-04-28 18:44:56 UTC
Kadl wrote:
Tengu Grib wrote:
Harvey James wrote:
and who would use them?
hull tanking as a whole is something that needs work if you expect people to hull tank anything


Hull rigs on orcas, with DC and Bulkhead. Yeah, not looking forward to trying to pop those.


Ah! Hull tanking at it's finest.

The market may be limited but this is a humorous and good addition.

For many Gallente ships, if you want full-on hardcore buffer tank then this will be the way to go.
Viribus
Dark Enlightenment
New Eden Alliance 99013733
#31 - 2014-04-28 19:03:17 UTC
the navy hull-athron is back

watch me be a scurb and get owned
Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2014-04-28 19:14:35 UTC
Was about to complain about invincible Orcas and this being a stealth highsec buff.

Then I remembered that highsec carebears don't tank their Orcas as is.

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Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
#33 - 2014-04-28 19:14:47 UTC
please tweak hull reppers/remote reppers and add hull resist mods now Twisted
HiddenPorpoise
Jarlhettur's Drop
United Federation of Conifers
#34 - 2014-04-28 19:19:20 UTC
How do they stack?
Powers Sa
#35 - 2014-04-28 19:20:41 UTC
Mara Tessidar wrote:
Powers Sa wrote:
RIP orca ganking


literally the only ship that would ever use these rigs

rorqs as well

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Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
#36 - 2014-04-28 19:21:26 UTC
Money Makin Mitch wrote:
please tweak hull reppers/remote reppers and add hull resist mods now Twisted

Damage Control II is your hull resist mod lol

Faction DCUs would be nice though. Imagine Tech 2 resistance profiles on your structure... I don't even know if that would be worth it, but #YOLO #SWAG #!

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Liarali
W-Space IT Department
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#37 - 2014-04-28 19:41:41 UTC
7.1m EHP Revelation here I come.
Berluth Luthian
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2014-04-28 19:43:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Berluth Luthian
I've been thinking about Bushido fits to defend planetary satellites...or like objectives...hmmmm.

How about letting us overheat our damage mods then!!

+15% extra resists per damage type, but it loses all resists for shield/armor.
Sven Viko VIkolander
In space we are briefly free
#39 - 2014-04-28 19:44:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Sven Viko VIkolander
3x hull rig Damage control Bulkhead Orca insanity.

I already use an Orca instead of a freighter for shipping. Never going back now.

Looking forward to trying an hull tanked Algos. Now all we need is an ancillary hull rep
stoicfaux
#40 - 2014-04-28 19:47:39 UTC
No rigs that affect hull repairers? Seriously?

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