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Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-04-28 13:46:29 UTC
If the do that I want a refund of all my money I give ccp in the past 8 a 10 years. Because it will cost me less if I need to buy flex for sp. If the going to do that I stop eve forever. Pay to win is not a option. I even hate the plex but I can live with it.
Dave Stark
#22 - 2014-04-28 13:47:14 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
So CCP should complete the equation and make money = SP.


remind me how, currently, you can obtain sp without money.
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#23 - 2014-04-28 13:48:06 UTC
Cpt Swagg wrote:
What if CCP made an option that we could use to change a PLEX for unallocated SP?

For example, 30 days worth of SP.

Instead of going through the pain of waiting months just to fly a dam ship.




OR, create an activity in game that rewards SP, so we can grind them.


Get the F out and go back to WoW. Dear lord, there would literally be no faster way to kill EVE.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#24 - 2014-04-28 13:51:36 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
So CCP should complete the equation and make money = SP.


remind me how, currently, you can obtain sp without money.


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Solecist Project
#25 - 2014-04-28 13:53:13 UTC
My conclusion of this indeedly serious thread is...

Everybody likes my face.

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Dave Stark
#26 - 2014-04-28 13:55:24 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
My conclusion of this indeedly serious thread is...

Everybody likes my face.


i like it, because it reminds me that there's some one more ugly than me.
that gives me hope.
Adunh Slavy
#27 - 2014-04-28 14:00:26 UTC
Arsine Mayhem wrote:

Older players don't want this cause they will lose their power over noobs. Simple as that.

It is why all the suck in the gaming world gathers here.



And what will stop older players, who have more money, from buying SPs?

The only thing that would stop them, as has been pointed out, any activity in Eve, has a maximum amount of SPs that can be applied to it by any one character at any one time. Thus, if you wanna pay to win, you get to drink the alt-koolaide.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#28 - 2014-04-28 14:12:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Arsine Mayhem wrote:
Cpt Swagg wrote:
What if CCP made an option that we could use to change a PLEX for unallocated SP?

For example, 30 days worth of SP.

Instead of going through the pain of waiting months just to fly a dam ship.

OR, create an activity in game that rewards SP, so we can grind them.


Older players don't want this cause they will lose their power over noobs. Simple as that.

It is why all the suck in the gaming world gathers here.
Wrong, newbies already train skills faster, from the get go, than they have done in the past. I don't think you'll find many people who would say that it's a bad thing either, because the change that made it possible was beneficial to all, wasn't a p2w scenario, and got rid of a really annoying time sink.

Plex for, unallocated or otherwise, SP on the other hand is a p2w scenario, something a large percentage of subscribers do not want to ever see implemented in Eve, and I believe CCP themselves would be very cautious about even thinking of such a thing given the shitstorm that happened the last time they discussed it internally.

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Arsine Mayhem
Doomheim
#29 - 2014-04-28 14:15:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Arsine Mayhem
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Dear Arsine Mayhem, the following information may be of some help to you.

A frigate, for example, can only absorb a finite number of skill points before it is maxed out.

The max number of skill points which can be used to fly and fit a frigate applies if you are a relatively new player or if you are a player who has played Eve Online since the Beta.

Kind regards,

J D


Which comes out to about a year of SP if you figure in Nav, Electronics, Engineering, Rigs, Armor, Shield, Spaceship Command, a lot of which are only trained to 4.

So yea, those 3 noobs you pwn in frigs, that's a real accomplishment for you.

Reminds me of the losers with full arena gear going into regular bg's in WOW.

You pwn dude.
The Slayer
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#30 - 2014-04-28 14:18:09 UTC
Arsine Mayhem wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Dear Arsine Mayhem, the following information may be of some help to you.

A frigate, for example, can only absorb a finite number of skill points before it is maxed out.

The max number of skill points which can be used to fly and fit a frigate applies if you are a relatively new player or if you are a player who has played Eve Online since the Beta.

Kind regards,

J D


Which comes out to about a year of SP if you figure in Nav, Electronics, Engineering, Rigs, Armor, Shield, Spaceship Command, a lot of which are only trained to 4.

So yea, those 3 noobs you pwn in frigs, that's a real accomplishment for you.

Reminds me of the losers with full arena gear going into regular bg's in WOW.

You pwn dude.


Thanks for confirming how awesome I am.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#31 - 2014-04-28 14:19:31 UTC
Arsine Mayhem wrote:


Which comes out to about a year of SP if you figure in Nav, Electronics, Engineering, Rigs, Armor, Shield, Spaceship Command, a lot of which are only trained to 4.


Utterly utterly no

Just... no.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#32 - 2014-04-28 14:29:05 UTC
This thread is now about what happens when 3yolds get their hands on the butter

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Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2014-04-28 14:47:20 UTC
The Slayer wrote:
Arsine Mayhem wrote:

Reminds me of the losers with full arena gear going into regular bg's in WOW.

You pwn dude.


Thanks for confirming how awesome I am.

Lol

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Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2014-04-28 14:57:46 UTC
Cpt Swagg wrote:
What if CCP made an option that we could use to change a PLEX for unallocated SP?

For example, 30 days worth of SP.

Instead of going through the pain of waiting months just to fly a dam ship.




OR, create an activity in game that rewards SP, so we can grind them.

-1 no.

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ISD Alliance
#35 - 2014-04-28 17:35:55 UTC
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