Live Events Discussion

Low sec spawns were system-wide fights with gate camps, station camps, fights to hold the grid with the carriers and potential for fights to happends in the neighbouring systems.

Highsec spawns were punching balls/DPS race where all you did was locking a target and shooting it until it died (quickly), while taking half a dozen jumps under heavy TiDi were all you had to do was looking at your screen.


Maybe if these small groups actually tried to have the same degree of organization, involvment and preparation as these "large" groups, they would stand a better chance. And really, 40 PL in navy apocs is not that large of a fleet, and would not have dominated the fight if the 800 other people in local were risking something bigger than a destroyer.

But I guess the problem is that low sec events were actual fights instead of simply bashing a helpless carrier who dont agress you with more than 2 dragonfly at once.

I went to that last event in a machariel (modified for the occasion with 3 warp speed rigs and 2 nanofibers) , by the time I came in, no carrier was below 80% shield. You are simply making excuses for people to be dumb, lazy, antisocial and entilted.

To the OP. Event was good. Would have been great if the Provists were actually trying to achieve some goal rather than suicide capitalships for fun and profit. There was a time when live events like this drove some story and the event actors actually roleplayed with everyone in the IGS forums! Those were the best events.

To the other posters telling people to bring bigger ships: no. Not everyone wants to fly in a fleet of strangers and prefer solo. Small stuff is better in that situation. But hey, if you want to buy me a machariel that will likely die to TiDi you're more than welcome to do so, but considering I was one of the first few people to arrive at the last three events I'm quite satisfied. I just wish I had specialized more for scan resolution for those damn pods...

I did enjoy this event, offered something for everyone, in all timezones.

Minor complaint from me is the lack of storydrive. Most actors didn't explain their purpose to be there, save 'to die for the True Caldari Way as martyrs'

However, all in all, a very enjoyable event, one that helped me greatly in writing reports! Went all out for it!

Did like the fact it wasn't something totally out the blue, but related to older newsreports. The Provists were all member of the 37th squadron, and were part of the trial where they got dishonourably discharged, a severe punishment in the State. So it's not unthinkable they offered their knowledge of Caldari Navy assets to the Dragonaurs in exchange for revenge.

Which is why you're in a NPC FW corp. Cool story bro.

Maybe they were, and just didn't want to trust capsuleers with that information? Or maybe they weren't.

Not everything has to be spelled out in black and white.

It's not about it being spelt out. It's about there being visual clues to something deeper so that people have an avenue to start trying to dig deeper. Right now there is no way to dig deeper without wild ass guessing as to what they were doing, since they were at inconsistent locations in systems with no pattern to the system locations anyone could derive either.
Also be great if people trying to dig deeper got feedback, even if it was 'You find nothing' so they at least know someone bothered to read their mail.

On the event, it was better run. The Null Blocs are always going to dominate these things though if they care to be there. Talking about 'entitlement' or any other rubbish is silly. Null Blocs are already set up for years for fleet combat. High Sec isn't. So alternative ways to interact with the event that can be accomplished by a smaller fleet under fire is also desirable. i.e. obviously a smaller fleet can't kill carriers, but there could be much smaller objectives either on grid, or even off grid providing there is some kind of reasonable clue, for those smaller fleets to attempt to get done before they get shot out of the sky.
The Events don't have to just be replicating the current state of Sov warfare where there is only one objective and biggest fleet wins pretty much.

However the reward was simply inappropriate. They were offering nearly ten times the value of the ships in reward. Over 500 Billion. And when it was correctly predicted beforehand by the playerbase that PL would walk away with most of the low sec plex, CCP must have known that one of the big null blocs at least would do that. For a 500 Bil reward, using the standard bounty system there should have been at least 5 Trillion in ship value that players had to fight their way through to destroy. Since about 10% of actual ship value ends up getting paid out most of the time.
A much better reward would have been skinned ships using the new Aur store ships, or Aurum, or specific Caldari clothing.
Cool cosmetic rewards, maybe even with isk value (Though not 500 billion) of it's self. But not a powerful game item like plex.

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Second Eran on the please-more-arpee-please angle. That said, definitely liked the varied timezones and the warning. As a US TZ player, it's really hard to have a presence. :x Got in a little bit of Ishu-v-Provist banter, which was fun, even if I didn't have much chance to pursue before everything hit the fan. ;)

The point of live events is that the actors are under exactly the same rules as the players are. Sometimes the actors will be suspect. Sometimes the players will be the ones going suspect instead. Sometimes everyone will go suspect. But there are no 'special' Live Event Actor rules.

If fleet vs fleet without wardecs is an issue in highsec, then maybe we need to lobby for the ability to create fleet wide limited engagements, (That would then also mean that Logi could rep their own fleet without going suspect since everyone had the same limited engagement tags). But that's a bit more of a complex mechanic and may start to confuse people again, as well as opening up additional gank opportunities. May not be a bad thing overall, but you would also need to introduce some mechanic (Intel Tab, I'm looking at you) to determine if your target was in a fleet, and who else was in the same fleet, so that you could engage a suspect safely rather than engage a suspect and discover 30 other ships on the undock were also in fleet with them.

Um. No.