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Minty Aroma
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-04-15 15:23:21 UTC
The Gnosis, like it or not it's one versatile mofo able to fit a decent tank and still pump out a decent amount of dps with multiple weapons systems. Now the supply of these great ships will dry up at some stage, so I am proposing that CCP introduce the Society of Conscious Thought as an actual faction for high sec mission running or something to spend CONCORD LP on with the Gnosis as a reward.

On top of that I would love to see other SoCT ships such as a versatile frigate, cruiser and BS, all designed to be a jack of all trades type ship similar to the Gnosis. They could also be LP rewards keeping the supply fairly high!

Thoughts? Suggestions? CCP dev to actually implement this? :P
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#2 - 2014-04-15 15:36:54 UTC
Minty Aroma wrote:
The Gnosis, like it or not it's one versatile mofo able to fit a decent tank and still pump out a decent amount of dps with multiple weapons systems. Now the supply of these great ships will dry up at some stage, so I am proposing that CCP introduce the Society of Conscious Thought as an actual faction for high sec mission running or something to spend CONCORD LP on with the Gnosis as a reward.

On top of that I would love to see other SoCT ships such as a versatile frigate, cruiser and BS, all designed to be a jack of all trades type ship similar to the Gnosis. They could also be LP rewards keeping the supply fairly high!

Thoughts? Suggestions? CCP dev to actually implement this? :P


I'm pretty sure you get Gnosis BPCs from some LP store (in addition to the CCP handout a while back).

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Minty Aroma
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-04-15 15:45:13 UTC
Tried looking for them, pretty sure you can't get them with LP
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#4 - 2014-04-15 15:55:17 UTC
Minty Aroma wrote:
Tried looking for them, pretty sure you can't get them with LP


Yeah, I think you might be right. Looks like 5-run BPCs were given out with the CE and that's it.

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Minty Aroma
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-04-15 16:08:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Minty Aroma
Carmen Electra wrote:
Minty Aroma wrote:
Tried looking for them, pretty sure you can't get them with LP


Yeah, I think you might be right. Looks like 5-run BPCs were given out with the CE and that's it.


That's what I remember, so they will at some point dry out :( I am possibly thinking soon of saving up a spare bil and spending it all on Gnosis hulls so I have plenty in the future as they disappear and rise in price on the market to use or sell (isn't a bad long term investment and I do like using them anyway), but I'd rather see them become a renewable resource to use.
El Geo
Warcrows
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#6 - 2014-04-15 16:31:31 UTC
SoCT actually have stations in NPC nullsec, I would put the agents for LP there first and develop an idea for other modules that they may use

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Sean Parisi
Blackrise Vanguard
#7 - 2014-04-16 10:26:49 UTC
Would be nice to see it added. Even if skill requirements are adjusted for it. (Ie: to get bonussed for a weapon system you need the associated race / or soct skill). Then I think it would be an interesting ship that is constantly obtainable. Jack of all trades - master of none.
Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
#8 - 2014-04-16 10:36:34 UTC
I really don't like the idea of 'limited edition prize ships' I think its just sort of =/ and doesn't fit with the idea of the sandbox. Every ship in the game should be constructable with a large enough investment of resources imo. I'd love to see more SOCT ships, and see them as actual buildable ships.

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Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#9 - 2014-04-16 12:35:28 UTC
only if the limited edition gnosi were somehow distinguished from the lp store version (NOT in fitting, stats, or skill reqs) but just a slightly different skin or something, so that the limited edition gnosis remains a novelty thing (like the sarum magnate, for example)

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Mazzara
Band of the Red Sun
#10 - 2014-04-17 00:42:49 UTC
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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-04-17 03:25:32 UTC
Saede Riordan wrote:
I really don't like the idea of 'limited edition prize ships' I think its just sort of =/ and doesn't fit with the idea of the sandbox. Every ship in the game should be constructable with a large enough investment of resources imo. I'd love to see more SOCT ships, and see them as actual buildable ships.

Yes, lets make all the limited edition tournament ships, aswell as ships worth billions because they are the only ones left, HELL lets make the GUARDIAN-VEXOR mass-producable, what could go wrong?

despite these limited edition ships generally being fairly powerful compared to standard ships BECAUSE of their one-off rarity, the value they hold as collectors items for those who have either been around in the game long enough or make enough to buy a novelty, and completely destroying the historical significance attributed to several of those ships, the manner of their aquisition, and the short time they were around.

also, no.
Kenrailae
Scrapyard Artificer's
Just Lizard
#12 - 2014-04-17 05:46:02 UTC
Would Love a guardian Vexor.


More so a Federate 'Thron.


But, some of those hulls are 1 of a kind, and the current owner either plotted deviously to obtain it or else paid ALOT of isk for it.


On those grounds, No, Limited ships SHOULD NOT be 'oh here BPC's errywhere!'.


Though CCP, I would like you to add the Roden 'Thron. THAT is a sexy ship.

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Mutually Lucrative Business Proposals
#13 - 2014-04-17 15:20:55 UTC
Kenrailae wrote:
Would Love a guardian Vexor.


More so a Federate 'Thron.


But, some of those hulls are 1 of a kind, and the current owner either plotted deviously to obtain it or else paid ALOT of isk for it.


On those grounds, No, Limited ships SHOULD NOT be 'oh here BPC's errywhere!'.


Though CCP, I would like you to add the Roden 'Thron. THAT is a sexy ship.


I'm pretty sure calling Gnosis limited edition is an insult to limited editions

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Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#14 - 2014-04-17 15:52:46 UTC
There are tens of thousands of Gnosis left. They will not be drying up anytime soon.
Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#15 - 2014-04-17 22:06:19 UTC
10's of thousands? reallyShocked?
how many of those are flown, and of those - how many are lost each day?

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Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
#16 - 2014-04-18 00:03:23 UTC
I am quite fond of the Gnosis and had purchased several dozen some time back as I use it in combat.
The Gnosis is not a limited edition ship, however. Like the Sarum Magnate, it was handed out as a freebie what, two Christmas' ago? Plus there are the 5 run BPCs obtainable from the 10th Anniversary package.

Things like the Guardian-Vexor or Etana are true limited edition ships since they were handed out as rewards for the Alliance Tournaments. While I would not mind seeing them in the 10s of thousands like the Gnosis it would cheapen them as a reward for being a winner in the Tournament. That is something I appreciate so it would only be reasonable for CCP to make one available to all in whatever fashion they choose if that specific line of Tourney reward were destroyed. ie: if all Guardian-Vexors handed out as a reward were destroyed, only then would it be reasonable to ask CCP to offer them (without the tourney markings) as a mass producible ship.

But the Gnosis, that was handed out as a freebie regardless of any accomplishment, sells for between 50 and 57 million in Jita while you would be lucky to see any of the Tourny rewards listed for even multiple billions, and I for one would love to see it available from the SoCT. However, I have checked, there are no agents for the SoCT so until CCP adds them, there is little point in adding them as an LP reward at this time. Perhaps adding one as an optional reward for completing the SOE Epic Arc (where the Gnosis is first seen as a ship) would work until such a time as SoCT gets agents offering missions.

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Cassandra Aurilien
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2014-04-18 00:22:08 UTC
Xe'Cara'eos wrote:
10's of thousands? reallyShocked?
how many of those are flown, and of those - how many are lost each day?

I'm not claiming you're wrong, I'm just not accepting your right either...



They gave one to every active account... That means there would have originally been quite a lot. 400K or so, I believe. It will take a while for that many to be gone through...
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#18 - 2014-04-18 01:23:00 UTC
Just shoot them faster and harder, to make their value rise dramatically.

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Minty Aroma
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-04-20 14:26:28 UTC
If skills were added to the deal, maybe make it use all 4 race's skills for it's different weapons systems, such as 5% damage per level to medium energy turrets for Amarr BC, missiles for Caldari BC, projectiles for Minny BC and hybrids for Gallente with the rest of the bonuses being ship role bonuses. That way, people will still need to train ship skills to fly them efficiently so they won't just end up being a ship all the new players end up going into due to the high returns of flying one with little spaceship command training.
Catherine Laartii
Doomheim
#20 - 2014-04-20 19:48:16 UTC
Here's hoping for them adding more of them into the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWqvAo4Wv6c#t=222
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