Live Events Discussion

^ motivation of pilot: fun and killmails. Or a faulty trigger on the smartbombs... Who knows.

Great report and congrats for everyone that won plex!

After examining the fits the Provists like to use, me and sis decided to join with our Curses to apply some capacitor pressure in an attempt to try and deactivate their active hardeners and local repairer. Our hostiles were reported at a station and when we arrived we had to burn 130km towards the 2 remaining Phoenixes of which one was at 75% shields already. Good thing we had a microwarpdrive fitted.

'Gabryella, put your nosferatu on Ina and all your neutralizers on Aikabinen!'
'Ay, ma'am!'

It worked and precious energy got stolen. Of course the Phoenixes died before even remotely cap dry, but it was a great idea none the less and a lot of fun. I told sis we should have brought Bhaalgorns instead, but we both agreed that they wouldn't have made it in Torrinos in time to get on the kills.

Some feedback for CCP, my thoughts on the event so far. Overall good and positive.

Low sec. Large highly organised, experienced, and resourced blobs from null sec steamroll the system into submission and walk off with most of the prize. Not really surprising, and I'm not sure that anything can be done to provide better balance for a wider audience there, or that even anything should be done. That part of things may very well be working as it should. Some people seem to have enjoyed it, but it does basically exclude solo/casual/small people, as flying in to meet guaranteed insta-death just isn't fun. Please continue to do what has been happening for the later days (but didn't happen in any obvious way for the first few days), and tell us whether to expect high or low sec tomorrow, so that we can plan both real life and game time towards the events that will be fun for us.

The remainder of this is mostly about high sec, which is where I've been participating or watching for this event, being someone who didn't fancy the idea of insta-death at the hands of a mega null blob. Making the event at least partly accessible to all players is a very good thing.

Last minute announcement of location is both good and bad. It helps prevent griefing and levels the field a bit between highly organised groups and more casual groups. The bad side is when you hit heavy time dilation in a long chain of systems on the way to the event area, as happened with Thursday's event. There was a long run of systems at 50% dilation or worse on the run from New Caldari out to the event constellation, which was very much not fun, and artificially excluded people from getting a fair chance at participating. My suggestion to help keep things fair is to make the announcement just a little in advance of the targets appearing, e.g. announce the constellation at 2000, but targets don't appear until 2030. Also, perhaps try to do more on server management to minimise the chance of hitting a long run of time dilation on likely popular routes inbound to the event.

Scanning the final location down with probes. I'm not sure this is really such a great thing, as the combat probe launcher has a huge CPU requirement. It just seems to me like it's an unnecessary obstacle towards mass participation and enjoyment of the event. In the case of this event, it basically puts some people at a significant disadvantage, as they have to re-fit their ship after scanning down the location, before moving to engage and start scoring damage points. It goes against the "open to everyone" thing which I think was part of the intention with this event (and a very good thing, where possible).

Substandard fit of main event ships. It's slightly disappointing to see the major event capital ships on the field with basically a substandard fit. These are CN capital ships stolen directly from CN by rogue ex-CN officers. It's just bizarre to me that they are only T2 fit, and not basically full CN fit. This is not about getting better drops, more that I'd like to see the fight being against a true CN capital ship, not a cheap fit capital that's basically substandard. It would also help make the fight last a little longer, as it's over very quickly.

I've heard the argument about not disrupting the market, etc, but basically I think that's a nonsense justification for this event. CN modules are not all that rare on the market, mostly with good daily volume, so a typical half drop of a full CN fit from all of the capital ships in the event would not have made any significant impact on the market. I'm not suggesting deadspace or officer fit, just CN to give us what presumably would be the baseline fit if CN were to take these capital ships into a war engagement.

Yes, it's probably the right thing to avoid dropping vast quantities of high meta modules in events, so a large fleet of sub-capital event ships should be limited to T2. No, it's wrong to make that a blanket rule for all events. If there's a small number of capital ships (I consider the number involved in this event to be small), with a backstory that they have been stolen directly from a very rich and powerful faction/corp which is widely known for having their own high spec modules, it just seems like common sense to use discretion to go beyond T2 a little and give them a more realistic fit.

Do keep the total number of nice modules at a level which isn't going to hurt the market badly, and in the case of this event that would be full CN fit for all capitals involved in the event. Some lucky individual or group gets to take them home, if they can get them off the field successfully, but that shouldn't be a big deal really, just a nice random bonus for an event participant. As an example, the CN invulnerability field has a sustained daily volume of 10-20 on the market in The Forge, so 2 or 3 dropping daily for a week isn't going to cause significant market disruption in the medium to long term (short term really doesn't matter, tbh). It's also more incentive for people to get involved in the event.

There needs to be a better application of common sense and discretion on this issue, in my opinion, not just a blanket ban on anything better than T2 in case someone moans about it (they need to HTFU, this is EVE, there are winners and losers). In terms of PvE ISK fountains, etc, it's balanced against how mush ISK the same 100s of players could have got through missions, etc, in the same time period (which includes waiting around before the event, travelling to it, the fight, then travelling back to your normal area). For some events, limiting fits to T2 will be the right thing to do, but for this event the capital ships should have been full CN fit.

The event has basically been good, and a success, I think. The above is just areas I would look at to make it better next time.

You can Remote rep them, you will just get a suspect flag just like anyone will if they rep another suspect or someone engaged in a limited engagement. You aren't going to get to rep a suspect while being safe from being shot at yourself. Just bring enough logi to rep yourselves as well if you get shot.

Pretty sure they both went dry when they died. I remember the Phoenix pilots both cursing some curses.



The issue you would have encountered at that event is the Phoenixes were in Siege, and thus couldn't receive remote assistance. You should be fine to try and rep the Chimeras as long as they don't go into triage.

ah. ta

you have secured my vote for CSM.

It would be a shame if the poor citizens of New Eden received access to free PLEX. Such a handout only breeds laziness among the masses and sends them the aberrant message that apathy will be rewarded. The glorious Pandemic Legion has consequently determined that it is in the greater good if the masses are put in their rightful place.

Long live the one percent.

First time the event is really in US TZ and the Provists complete their objectives and successfully espace, coincidence?

I don't think so.

Taisey, what a cluster @#$%.

T1 frig camp on the gate coming in the system. Then I warp to a planet, create safe, warp to another planet and land 50km from 25ish pirate wolfs. Somehow i warp out before they get tackle. Fleet member then gets on grid of 3 chimera's. Gives the command warp to them. I go in warp then the guy says "oh ****, im dead" on ts.

Before I exit warp I get massive lag, slowly waiting for everything to load. I see 50ish Apoc's from PL over 50km away from my sniper eagle. I die instantly before it even finishes loading my overview.

Fleets disperses in a panic. I lose 220 mil. My life in eve.