Live Events Discussion

Agreed completely, the metrics we're collecting show that on average the attendance at the lowsec events is almost double.

Sorry Elise, seems there are couple from PL who would beg to differ on this point.
Or is my point of - PL will take it to ensure no-one else can, closer to the truth

English 101 and simple math.
Read what is written, do not try to read something that is not on the page, you are less likely to appear unintelligent and won't give others a headache trying to understand what your responses..

1000 maximum in system (for the 1st 15 mins) minus 600 killed equals 400.
400 give or take a few is the number in system for more than the 1st 15 mins. Or - the duration of the event.

How anybody could take 1000 minus 600 and get 1500 is beyond comprehension. I blame the schools, teachers must not be as bright as they were 40 years ago.

Curious about these metrics and your "almost double" comment - almost double on what.
Almost double is close enough to CCP Rise's -"PLenty".
Statistics / Metrics - Used to find information relating to specific requirements. Used primarily to show only information requested and can be biased by leaving out relevant questions during the information gathering process.

Get some real information about the event;
Ship Types
Corp and Alliance
Length of time in system
Total pilots in system.
Total pilots vs Total ships destroyed.

Oh wait, all this information is freely available to anyone who cares to look for it. Sorry but unless you are going to fudge the numbers using "metrics". A little over 1000 was system peak with 600+ kills in a 15 min period - you had around 1000 people attend the event.
400 of them actually got to participate in the event for more than 15 mins.
200+ of those consisted of 2 fleets from major nulsec alliances.

Google is a wealth of information. Eve is just over 10 years old and the amount of 3rd party applications available is great. You can find accurate information on everything, from how much a rifter costs, to how many pilots were in a system at any given time and how many ships were destroyed in the same time period.

**Many of those in attendance appear on killboards multiple times and 1 App show just under 1000 jumps (entering and leaving the system) in the time period.
Could it be there were actually less than 1000 in attendance and many pilots appearing multilpe times on killboards bolstered numbers.

1 pilot - loss, Rifter - 1 min 12 seconds later, loss Rookie ship - 35 seconds later, loss Capsule.

Schools here teach critical thinking too.
If you had a high turn-over (since 600 died) and a top of 1000 people in the system, it is safe to assume a part of these 600 participated (and died) before the local hit 1000, hence impying that more than 1000 people were participating. Not to mention people who joined around the end, or came in and left.

Now if you're unhappy with the fact that participating to an event in lowsec doesnt guarantee to be there for the full length and to not get killed, I'm afraid you dont really understand what lowsec is.

But hey, you were believing that a highsec DPS race was more interesting to most people than a lowsec brawl, I'm not holding you to have a lot of common sense.

System capped out at around 1000.
Critical thinking?? Maybe they should teach logical thinking. If only 1000 people entered the system it would be IMPOSSIBLE for more than that to have participated.
Yes all 600 of those killed during the event participated (if you call getting killed on a gate as you enter the event system, participation) - for between 45 seconds and 15 mins.

Logical explanation for the illogical thinker - you as a member of a PL fleet get a ping about a ratting super. The fleet jumps into their NaPocs (eg) and depart. You have 5 gates to go through before reaching the system with the ratting super. You lose your napoc and are podded by a gate camp as you jump into the system the super is ratting in.. Did you participate in the event - or - did you make it TO the event and were not able to participate because someone killed you as soon as you arrived.

The anger that manifests in your posting may not contribute well to getting your point across, but I'll respond anyway.

System capped at around 1000. This means that during this time, there may have been pilots killed and/or left the system voluntarily.

600 pilots were killed during this event. It is reasonable to assume that when the peak was reached, some of those 600 had already been killed.

Some pilots also log off, crash or leave the system. Those pilots are not necessarily counted in the peak number of capsuleers in system.

To put it in another way, if a bus can hold 100 people, is it reasonable to assume that only 100 people have traveled on that bus, or is it more reasonable to assume that since people get on or off the bus at different stops, the total amount of people that have traveled on the bus is more than the peak number of passengers?

800 get in the system. 200 die and get podded, or run away. 400 more people enter system. The local is at 1000, but 1200 people participated.

Too logical for you, shitbrain?

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Well, fkkkkk. Landed hits on both pods, with an alpha of 650, which normally 1 shots pods. Neither died.

Congrats Memsi Craft Shows it pays off to show up & shoot things, even when you're late! Glad to ehar you had a good time!