Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Actually, I feel that tackling 3 ships with one point to be horrendous, a borderline exploit.

I can only hope this is because the ships were poorly piloted and not because bumping is really that effective on a competant pilot. Tackle should require points and aggression timers.

One instance was 2 pilots, 3 ships. The other was 1 pilot, 5 ships, 2 got away.
This was in WH space, there are no timers

Bumping is really effective against a competent pilot, and any WH'er does well to learn how to do it right. IE: Bumping a ship off of a wormhole to prevent it from escaping, bumping a ship to prevent it from warping, bumping a ship away from a carrier to prevent it from getting reps, etc.

It's part of the game, it's part of life.

fly their ship for starts. it sucks to give away the methods that give me a competitive edge, but seeing as its u, with most useful first:

- when ice mining (which is horrendously AFK friendly) u can just manual pilot to within 200-300 metres of an ice cube and then 'orbit at current distance'. never been bumped since i started doing that and it is still just as afk friendly. and thats in a fat slow mack, not a whizzy skiff.

- when in a big rock belt, move ur barge into the rocks. u dnt need much room to align to warp, but a bumper needs loads of room and a clear path to bump u. Orbiting whilst doing this adds extra difficulty to the bumper.

- Fly a skiff

- LEAVE. u have no right to the belt ur at, and anyone who is willing to put forth the effort to prevent u from mining there deserves to have it more than u, unless u put in the effort to fight back. Or u can just move to another belt or system.

- Make ur barge more mobile. AB's dnt really do anything, but NANO's will. Changing direction at speed with a MWD is very difficult. Manually pilot ur ship to change course once hes picked up some speed and he wont easily match u. i've missed retties with a stabber because they've suddenly moved or changed direction.

theres no way to determine if a bump is intentionally tackling someone, or if they just flew into each other accidentally.

Bumping is a tactic i personally love. it always looks good when u pull something off with a skillful bump. It must stay in the game. It is also a point of pilot skill that makes bumping effective or ineffective. it must never require anything more than a ship and its pilot (i.e. i dnt want a mod requirement).

Between that and allowing ppl to accidentally fly into each other without inciting CONCORDian rage. i think we have the best possible system in affect right now

It could be fixed by changing alignment to a warp drive spool up timer, which would also make some ships more vunerable to a fast tackler as aligning beforehand would no longer matter.

It could be allieviated by disallowing bumping in certain high traffick areas, like around stations and gates.

It could be fixed by only allowing a ship to bump or be bumped once every minute, which would allow tactical use and harrasment of miners, but not allow it to be used as tackle.

Bottom line, regardless of how cool, funny or useful you find it, if its being used in an aggresive manner, such as tackle without consequence of aggression, that aspect of it needs fixed.

bumping is combatable. Fit nanofiber in your low slots and an AB in your mid. It will be impossible to bump you regardless of what you are flying.