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i'm not sure if this has been answered yet, but will R.A.M. now be affected by the ME level of the BPO/BPC?

Research will have specific ways around that, which will be explained in the proper blog

I would like to know if CCP plans to include faction/corporation standings of players/corporations into the formula for the price of new manufacturing jobs. Something like what works for the broker fees - better standings with station owner means lower prices.
I think this would be very appropriate, as CCP now removes the need of standings to anchor POS. It would also more encourage players to at least try missions or grind some standings... (COSMOS anyone?)

This is the worst single idea I have ever seen from a dev. DO NOT DO THIS CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!

We already risk a large amount of isk in just having the labs/datacores/decryptors and all of the copies needed out at a pos. Forcing us to either risk a huge amount more than that, or move the bpos to other much more populated stations that are already overpopulated (that don't have corp offices available or available for anywhere near a reasonable price) and incur a high cost that will greatly reduce production profit or negate it all together, is a horrible change. You as devs do not understand the amount of bpos required to make copies for t2 invention. And you clearly don't understand the organization and the necessity of being able to efficiently access bpos and the time commitment that industry already takes. It is incredibly shortsighted and ignorant of you to assume that it is only a slight amount of isk that we will be risking. We use and need easy access to hundreds of bpos to make the copies we need to be able to do invention. Asking us to risk multiple billions in bpos is insane. And no, I know I don't have to keep all of the bpos I am not using at the pos. However, the addition of moving around the needed bpos from the station to the pos adds an additional step and organizational nightmare to an already complicated system. Because of the nature of industry NOTHING you do with the UI and other new features will change this.

This change will also create an additional hassle organizational nightmare for players who need to find or move bpos around. Industry is already complicated enough without having to deal with moving all of the bpos around. DO NOT take away our ability to organize bpos in one central station corp office so multiple characters can easily have access to them and can quickly and efficiently install jobs. DO NOT make us do more work and take more time to do industry jobs.

Another severely overlooked issue that this creates: This removes the ability of safely sharing bpos by locking them down in corp hanger in a station. BPOs can't be locked down at a pos. This change will limit how and where we can play severely. It forces people who want to play together to use certain systems and certain stations, to pay for spots at those stations and it practically makes setting up a pos a waste of time and effort, because it limits its usefulness. In the culture of eve (griefers/corp thieves/all) this change removes several much needed elements of safety that allow us to enjoy playing and interacting with a larger player base.

If you have decided to do this, as is suggested by other statements in this dev blog, because you haven't worked out how to deal how the slot change affects pos mods, then DO NOT make this change until you come up with a better solution. Because this is NOT the way to make this change happen.

POSes are expensive, take time, effort and a good amount of isk to maintain already. Forcing us to risk a considerable amount more and in doing so increase the amount of busy work that is required for doing industry is not a good change.

I personally have been playing Eve for 5 and a half years. Industry is one part of the game that I greatly enjoy doing. If this change does go through I will have to seriously consider if it is worth it to keep paying for my 4 accounts. Many of my friends who like this element of the game are already talking about leaving because of this. I sincerely hope that you will not go through with this change and that the other forthcoming industry changes are much more intelligently and thoughtfully crafted than this. If not, you will be losing a large group of your paying customers.

how on earth are ~serious industrialists~ complaining that they might have a billion in bpos in a pos

it's an empire pos you get 24h notice before anyone can shoot it so you can vaccumn them all out and even if you don't, it's only a billion isk

Go home ccp your drunk.

The one thing that I disagree with is removing the ability for installing the jobs with the bpos in station, they are locked down to prevent corp theft of the bpos in the first place. There are few if any security measures in place in the POS code to prevent corp theft. Currently you only need a few roles in order to do manufacturing but you can't steal the bpo if its locked down

You need take access in a corp array in order to build, if you have those roles you can simply steal the bpo. This can be solved by making copies but some bpo copes are still worth a lot of isk and can be still stolen.


If the end goal is to have multiple teams working on industry projects, counter measures to be put in place to prevent corp theft as currently they are VERY limited especially in POS's.

I'm a little shocked at the level of information coming out before Fanfest. Usually the month before is quiet as they want to showcase it in Iceland. I am pleasantly surprised.

I had over 40b in BPOs researching at a single pos at one point, and even then it was hard to justify the cost of fuel. If the BPOs need to be in the labs, that sort of operation is only 24 hours without the right people being able to log in away from complete disaster.

I have over 100b of bpos technically in a pos right now, obviously I will move around which ones are where but for anything short of supercap bpos it's hardly a big deal to put it at risk.