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One artifact from this change: where does this leave Amarr Outposts? Currently, their advantage, compared to other outpost types, is that they have the largest number of raw manufacturing slots available for use. Does the new system have plans for mutating that advantage somehow to gel with the new system?

Could I be asking for information that's coming in a later devblog?

I see a lot of improvements, most are just graphical clarifications, which is always great.

But also my "extra hassle" alarm goes off: I now have to make copies of my battleship-and-up (T2) bpo's in a station, then move those to a pos, for added buildspeed, or set those bpc's to build directly in station. It's more clicks than I have to do now, building in a pos, with the bpo in station, directly.

Will standing with the corp owning an empire station lower the fees on manufacturing and research? Adding some optimisation mechanic there would add gameplay for otherwise passive industry alts. Maybe an idea....

Part of problems I saw come up after the reprocessing blog, about compressed ores becoming the new default material unit for transport, but those only being built in Rorquals in null-sec, are solved. Mining corps can now easily put up pos for compression, providing steady market supply of compressed ore in empire. Thankyou for that :)

Still, allowing industrial cores on Orca's would even be easier: Compress during the mining op, instead of afterwards.

I'm really curious bout what you're planning with "Teams" !

Keep up the good work, see you in 2 weeks

-SHC

So those 6 months grinding standings for a high sec POS has been wasted?

I must say this rather does remove much need to have high standings with a faction and not a corporation now

I sincerely hope that you have fully thought through the BPO changes.

Having to move BPOs around and not being able to leave them locked down, or lock them down in a POS is an open invitation to corp theft.

Removing the usefulness of this basic protection will only encourage people to make 1-man corps and discourage anyone from working together once they have any BPO of significant value. BPOs are one of the only assets that have lasting, significant, and appreciating value. You may think that adjusting the risk/reward on these will spark more gameplay, but it will only encourage people to play solo.

Good to see changes coming through from the forums I've been active in, certainly feels like the player base have been listened to on many things here.

Answer to number 6, Wardec>Blap POS>WIN

Which is probably the entire point, since it was a ****** mechanic that just encouraged painful grinding, alt corp usage or manipulating the mechanics to work around the limitation. Mainly pain and workarounds instead of worthwhile gameplay.

A couple of the follow up blogs should elaborate on this, but yes, the idea is that there is a more dynamic spread of players invested in Industry which should lead to a more interesting and dynamic landscape.

Sales tax and broker fees are a completely separate system, not something within scope of these changes though certainly an interesting idea.

If people want to play solo who is anyone to tell them how to play their game. And if people are going to store their T2 BPO's and Capital BPO's then they deserve their **** to get jacked. This is EVE!

Ok. I'm intrigued and I'll wait patiently for the rest of the plan to be unveiled.

As someone who builds Titans I'd just like to get another voice behind considerations for POS building.

Reducing copy time would certainly be viable for Hull Building after a brief delay to get copies started after the first post patch build that will be fine.

Components tho. Assuming a 1man corp which is going to be a must without lockdown. You still need to keep either 30Bil of BPOs in a POS anc choose betwen gambling on a successful defense or destroying around 20Bil in minerals to retrieve the BPOs while the POS is being reinforced. Or drastically increase your hauling from Refine minerals in station and haul to POS in system. To Refine minerals in Station and haul through a stargate to an Amarr station and then haul components from station to POS to build the ship off a BPC.

I already use 8 freighters multiboxed and consider the existing movement excessive. This would be hundreds of trips.

Upping the copies on a component BPC to 45-50 would be start as long as copy time is <= build time.

Otherwise allowing mineral recovery when jobs are cancelled would be an option but it forces a very very high attention level on POSes and makes eve a literal job to avoid catastrophic loss of assets.

I know supercap builders are the 1% but please don't make the extreme edge cases of ****** mechanics worse for us.